Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I haven't contadicted anything. Gogeta (At least the Version we're using is a no nonsense character who uses instanstansmission which is actually instant to demolish your team)Do math and figure out how fast he can go at max and then I'll counter you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Guldo gets pwned.That was more warp then stop and Ultimecia can do so much more then stop time she crunched all time and reality together to make a single moment that moves at less then a nano seconds worth of time. Also when came back to life after absorbing all time she tears down reality from the power of her entrance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarvelFan15 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Guldo gets pwned. I was hoping for a steb-by-step analysis of the fight...but, whatever. Also, if I remember correctly, Guldo can only stop time for as long as he can hold his breath...or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Also for the machine it was used to enhace her mental powers and posess people through time not stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesh Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I was hoping for a steb-by-step analysis of the fight...but, whatever. Also, if I remember correctly, Guldo can only stop time for as long as he can hold his breath...or something.You would be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 You would be correct.Ultimecia is not bound by that. Also where is that math I asked for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesh Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Ultimecia is not bound by that.I'm awere but I'm also awhere that ime is relitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I'm awere but I'm also awhere that ime is relitive.Not getting you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Also when has anyone in Dragon ball ever bust anything bigger then a galaxy and don't say Omega shenron cause there is a diffrence between killing all life and actually busting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Also even if Gogeta can move faster then time he wouldn't be able to do anything because for anything to happen time has to be there so everytime he tries to go faster then time he stops instantly because he can't do anything including move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Also when Guldo warped time did anyone move? NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Meh, I geuss I'll just lie back and relax... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treacherous Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 Let's get one thing straight. I have yet to see any proof that Ultimecia can stop time. She can go back through time (via a machine), but that takes time itself. She is not time itself, as you'd like to point out. She is a Sorceress, who uses a time machine. Doom has a time machine, but that hasn't helped him take over the Earth. She is capable of sending her mind back through time and mind control, not stopping time. She can pull the fight into the time stream with her, but again...I haven't seen stop time. That's Jo Jo's department. I say prove it. Also, there is no abomination to pull from Gogeta's brain. His arrogance wouldn't allow for him to believe anything is more powerful than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Let's get one thing straight. I have yet to see any proof that Ultimecia can stop time. She can go back through time (via a machine), but that takes time itself. She is not time itself, as you'd like to point out. She is a Sorceress, who uses a time machine. Doom has a time machine, but that hasn't helped him take over the Earth. She is capable of sending her mind back through time and mind control, not stopping time. She can pull the fight into the time stream with her, but again...I haven't seen stop time. That's Jo Jo's department. I say prove it. Also, there is no abomination to pull from Gogeta's brain. His arrogance wouldn't allow for him to believe anything is more powerful than him. the machine is used to enhace her telepathy to control minds she doesn't use that to travel back in time. He doesn't have to know it exsists it's all he would deny his arrogance would just fuel whatever pops out powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treacherous Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 I'm assuming that shows her stopping time. If so, good job. Anyway, not my battle. She still gets beat by Squall a lot. Squall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I'm assuming that shows her stopping time. If so, good job. Anyway, not my battle. She still gets beat by Squall a lot. Squall. Yes I give that to while a good story a better antagonist could have been chosen. you know I actually wanted Kefka Pallazzo in here but I don't think him being God of All Magic would have fit in but would he have, Just want to know to know if I should hit my head on the desk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treacherous Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 The DBZ group is giving you absolutely no attention. Look at you over here having jaunty little conversations. If I were debating you, I'd have you beat by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesh Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 the machine is used to enhace her telepathy to control minds she doesn't use that to travel back in time. He doesn't have to know it exsists it's all he would deny his arrogance would just fuel whatever pops out powers.Okay she can stop time but it appears an incantation was involved. (It was in Japanese so I couldn't tell what was being said.) If this is the case she gets *fake word*ed before she can stop time, as Gogeta would want to get the more minor powers out of the way so he could battle Kid Buu and Janemba would help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Man Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Also, if I remember correctly, Guldo can only stop time for as long as he can hold his breath...or something.Wait, that's it? Seriously?! There's a green alien dude who stops time by holding his breath? Wow. I need to see the first season again. That's Jo Jo's department.Number of times Treach has referenced Jo Jo: 206 It makes me want to read that manga... As for this fight, Zreth is slicing through his competition like a hot knife through butter. I'm still not convinced though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesh Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Wait, that's it? Seriously?! There's a green alien dude who stops time by holding his breath? Wow. I need to see the first season again. Number of times Treach has referenced Jo Jo: 206 It makes me want to read that manga... As for this fight, Zreth is slicing through his competition like a hot knife through butter. I'm still not convinced though...I've been trying to get my teammates over here but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKA Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Kid Buu is your only real chance.. Janemba blows the rest away before they have any time to do anything at all. Gogeta Kills Kid Buu without much effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Okay she can stop time but it appears an incantation was involved. (It was in Japanese so I couldn't tell what was being said.) If this is the case she gets *fake word*ed before she can stop time, as Gogeta would want to get the more minor powers out of the way so he could battle Kid Buu and Janemba would help with that.First of I would like to say all of Dissidia is considered canon but the level of power of all the characters is altered so that the matchs would be even. there was no incantation it was on a whim but because that was a weaker version so it actually took her a bit of time to channel. I'm also not sure what version treach is letting me use so here is how it would be for each version. Ultimecia Dissidia: Lose in a stomp, Ultimecia first stage: win but barely and the help of Kid Buu is required Greiver Ultimecia: Although more powerful it is more physicaly base so lose, Ultimecia absorbtion of all time: win in massive stomp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Kid Buu is your only real chance.. Janemba blows the rest away before they have any time to do anything at all. Gogeta Kills Kid Buu without much effort.Not really seeing you actually probably don't know most of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 The DBZ group is giving you absolutely no attention. Look at you over here having jaunty little conversations. If I were debating you, I'd have you beat by now. I don't know maybe, But right now Ultimecia is like my only crutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesh Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I don't know maybe, But right now Ultimecia is like my only crutch.I'd ebate you but I don't want my worthless teammates to rely on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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