Mercenaryblade Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Basically can Picard teach Holdo how to be an actually effective leader? Let's say after a disastrous command she's demoted and put under Picard's command as his new No1. Can Picard reforge her to an effective leader worthy to be an admiral? You know Starfleet admirals had a tendency to be secretly nuts.... hmm... maybe this isn't such a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callisto Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Learn More About Jean-Luc Picard Read more about Jean-Luc Picard at Wikipedia Official Site: Paramount Television Links: Captain Picard Wikipedia page Star Trek: The Next Generation Wikipedia Star Trek: The Next Generation imdb page Amilyn Holdo Read more about Amilyn Holdo at Wikipedia Official Site: Lucasfilm Links: Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twogunkid Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I think Holdo gets a bit of unfair criticism. Poe absolutely had the correct tactical analysis on taking out the dreadnought, but it might have been strategically incorrect. As a result of his insubordination she has to deal with a loose cannon that is Poe who thinks there is no plan. You do not need to share a covert plan with a flight leader who has shown himself to be insubordinate. THAT SAID... She then has to deal with a mutiny which she does a poor job of. I think Picard can more than improve on her leadership style by helping instill proper discipline and professionalism as that was where she was lacking. It would be inappropriate for a CO to sass Poe the way she did, and she did have a mutiny under her leadership. Edit: I personally would have loved Leia to make the sacrifice and have a combative relationship between Resistance Command and their top Ace. I think it would have made for interesting storytelling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzaguy2995 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I think so, I mean all he’s really need to do is teach her how to be less condescending toward her troops and be better able to command respect from them. So who exactly do I vote for if I say yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenaryblade Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Pizzaguy2995 said: I think so, I mean all he’s really need to do is teach her how to be less condescending toward her troops and be better able to command respect from them. So who exactly do I vote for if I say yes? Picard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzaguy2995 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Mercenaryblade said: Picard Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenaryblade Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 On 7/27/2021 at 6:07 PM, Twogunkid said: I think Holdo gets a bit of unfair criticism. Poe absolutely had the correct tactical analysis on taking out the dreadnought, but it might have been strategically incorrect. As a result of his insubordination she has to deal with a loose cannon that is Poe who thinks there is no plan. You do not need to share a covert plan with a flight leader who has shown himself to be insubordinate. THAT SAID... She then has to deal with a mutiny which she does a poor job of. I think Picard can more than improve on her leadership style by helping instill proper discipline and professionalism as that was where she was lacking. It would be inappropriate for a CO to sass Poe the way she did, and she did have a mutiny under her leadership. Edit: I personally would have loved Leia to make the sacrifice and have a combative relationship between Resistance Command and their top Ace. I think it would have made for interesting storytelling. It's scenes like this that made me dislike TLJ, but let's not go down that rabbit hole. I do have my perspective on the leadership or lack of having served myself. I agree that Poe is one that didn't see the big picture as it were. Be it as it may he's a field commander, those in the field have different insight to those in command as they're actually there. Yes he did disobey orders, but if he hadn't the Resistance would have died right then. While Leia did demote him, he was still an officer and still flight leader. Holdo absolutely needed to tell him at least the bare minimum "We have plan, just do your part." Was literally all she needed to say. I'd rather serve under someone like Poe vs condescending Holdo who can't even be bothered to wear a uniform. Hell, they had to station guards to keep people from deserting it was that bad. Alright my triggered fanboy rant is over. I do agree with your idea, as that would be more interesting. In fact there is a TNG two part episode sort of like that 'Chain of Command' where there's a temporary captain replacing Picard and he and Riker clash due to his different leadership style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callisto Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 MATCH SCORE Jean-Luc Picard: 6Amilyn Holdo: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickthekid Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 7/27/2021 at 6:07 PM, Twogunkid said: I think Holdo gets a bit of unfair criticism. Poe absolutely had the correct tactical analysis on taking out the dreadnought, but it might have been strategically incorrect. As a result of his insubordination she has to deal with a loose cannon that is Poe who thinks there is no plan. You do not need to share a covert plan with a flight leader who has shown himself to be insubordinate. THAT SAID... She then has to deal with a mutiny which she does a poor job of. I think Picard can more than improve on her leadership style by helping instill proper discipline and professionalism as that was where she was lacking. It would be inappropriate for a CO to sass Poe the way she did, and she did have a mutiny under her leadership. Edit: I personally would have loved Leia to make the sacrifice and have a combative relationship between Resistance Command and their top Ace. I think it would have made for interesting storytelling. I'm too late to vote for this, but I second this opinion and I agree with the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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