Coalition Of Mankind

[comic_book_fan]

Ha! In the Star Wars vs Star Trek fights, I bring up that the Fed Enterprise D can't take 800 gigawatts without losing shields! Star Wars ships do 200 gigatons on low turbos! 200 gigatons >>> 800 gigawatts.

 

The Federation has one of the WORST ships in any fiction you can think of.

but the enterprise is much faster then any ships in starwars .

and are you sure about the shields.

[Skirmisher]

but the enterprise is much faster then any ships in starwars .

and are you sure about the shields.

I take it that you are new to the Star Wars vs Star Trek debate?

 

It was practically decided years (I think a decade or more now) ago, that Star Trek is completely incapable of competing against Star Wars in any sort of Combat scenario.

 

Star Wars Hyper Drives can cross their galaxy in a couple months at the very most.

 

Star Trek Warp Drives take 70+ years to even attempt the same.

 

 

Star Wars can destroy/raze planets.

 

Star Trek... says that it might just be possible... kinda, maybe? Ok, no... they can't.

 

 

Star Wars ships are built for War, war and more war.

 

Star Trek ships are built for Exploration, discovery, and maybe scrapping with some uppity Klingons/Romulans/Alien of the week...

 

 

There are more, but you should be getting the picture.

 

Now there are some useful technologies that Star Trek has and Star Wars doesn't, and that's what my previous debate was about. Frankly here in this scenario I believe that the Federation isn't redundant and would be an asset.

[Guest ricrery]

but the enterprise is much faster then any ships in starwars .

and are you sure about the shields.

 

HA again! Star Wars ships have faster FTL speeds and probably accelerate much faster than the Enterprise, no contest.

 

Yes I am certain, 800 gigawatts <<< 200 gigatons, and that's the lower limit, I assume ISD ships fire 800 teratons per second on average for half an hour before piercing, take a guess which one has more shields.

[C.T.]

How did I miss this?

[Guest MarvelFan15]

I think those of us who are interested should get together, combine our imaginations, and at least create a rough draft of the story of this war. If we want to actually write out individual storylines of characters, we can do that as well.

 

Skirm? Ruinus? Ricrery? How about it?

[Skirmisher]

I think those of us who are interested should get together, combine our imaginations, and at least create a rough draft of the story of this war. If we want to actually write out individual storylines of characters, we can do that as well.

 

Skirm? Ruinus? Ricrery? How about it?

I'm for it, but we don't really have anyone arguing for the opposition. I could, but... frankly I believe in the eventual Human Victory...

 

Will someone speak up for the:

Tau Empire (Warhammer)

Necrons (Warhammer)

Tyranids (Warhammer)

Both The Eldar (Warhammer)

Orks (Warhammer)

The Covenant (Halo)

The Flood (Halo)

CIS (Star Wars)

Xenomorphs (Alien)

Yautja (Predator)

Bugs (Starship Troopers)

Martians (The War of The Worlds)

 

?

[Guest MarvelFan15]

I'm for it, but we don't really have anyone arguing for the opposition. I could, but... frankly I believe in the eventual Human Victory...

 

Will someone speak up for the:

Tau Empire (Warhammer)

Necrons (Warhammer)

Tyranids (Warhammer)

Both The Eldar (Warhammer)

Orks (Warhammer)

The Covenant (Halo)

The Flood (Halo)

CIS (Star Wars)

Xenomorphs (Alien)

Yautja (Predator)

Bugs (Starship Troopers)

Martians (The War of The Worlds)

 

?

 

Well...even if it ends in Human victory, that doesn't mean they'll have no hardships along the way. As you said, the two human governments might not get along too well. It could be that they lose until they learn to fully cooperate with one another.

[Schnee Corp Lawyer]

I'm for it, but we don't really have anyone arguing for the opposition. I could, but... frankly I believe in the eventual Human Victory...

 

Will someone speak up for the:

Tau Empire (Warhammer)

Necrons (Warhammer)

Tyranids (Warhammer)

Both The Eldar (Warhammer)

Orks (Warhammer)

The Covenant (Halo)

The Flood (Halo)

CIS (Star Wars)

Xenomorphs (Alien)

Yautja (Predator)

Bugs (Starship Troopers)

Martians (The War of The Worlds)

 

?

I know the tau, necrons, Orks, covenant, and flood ok, but just don't know enough about the other races to really defend them well

[Guest boston_celtics]

I'm for it, but we don't really have anyone arguing for the opposition. I could, but... frankly I believe in the eventual Human Victory...

 

Will someone speak up for the:

Tau Empire (Warhammer)

Necrons (Warhammer)

Tyranids (Warhammer)

Both The Eldar (Warhammer)

Orks (Warhammer)

The Covenant (Halo)

The Flood (Halo)

CIS (Star Wars)

Xenomorphs (Alien)

Yautja (Predator)

Bugs (Starship Troopers)

Martians (The War of The Worlds)

 

?

 

Given access of Webway gates means that the Xeno's have an (arguably) superior form of transportation because their lines will never be cut.

 

The CIS produced quintillions of Battle-Droids during the span of the Clone Wars. The Clone Wars were no forgone conclusion, and with the resources of the other races, that number could triple. That's alot of damn droids.

 

Tau could share their plasma technology, and incorporate it into the Droid design, while the Flood, the Martians, the Covenant, and the Eldar could add their own technologies, meaning now we have more than a quintillion Battle-Droids incorporating Flood, Eldar, Tau, and Covenant technology, who are able to get to locations without fear of being intercepted into space battles.

 

Bugs and Xenomorphs can suck up bolters.

 

Dooku could train Yautja in the way of the Force, thus creating Sith Assassins.

 

And Necrons? True Necrons could win this by themselves, given enough time.

[Guest ricrery]

Given access of Webway gates means that the Xeno's have an (arguably) superior form of transportation because their lines will never be cut.

 

Proof the Webway allows you to go anywhere besides other Webways? Won't really save them much. Besides, Necrons have the best FTL regardless.

 

The CIS produced quintillions of Battle-Droids during the span of the Clone Wars. The Clone Wars were no forgone conclusion, and with the resources of the other races, that number could triple. That's alot of damn droids.

 

The CIS has nowhere near the resources of the Galactic Empire, and the Galactic Republic were on par with them during the war so the GE could easily give them Super Star Destroyers and AT-AT's, plus Dark Trooper Phase III's. Win for the humans?

 

Tau could share their plasma technology, and incorporate it into the Droid design, while the Flood, the Martians, the Covenant, and the Eldar could add their own technologies, meaning now we have more than a quintillion Battle-Droids incorporating Flood, Eldar, Tau, and Covenant technology, who are able to get to locations without fear of being intercepted into space battles.

 

Federation(SST) could share their nuke weapons with the Spartans/Space Marines/Dark Troopers, then the GE could mass produce Titans with their resources, then the Feds could transport them between enemy lines and win. Human win again?

 

Bugs and Xenomorphs can suck up bolters.

 

Can they suck up nukes and Volcano Cannons?

 

Dooku could train Yautja in the way of the Force, thus creating Sith Assassins.

 

Vindicare Assassins could also be produced.

[Guest ricrery]

And Necrons? True Necrons could win this by themselves, given enough time.

 

More like every planet is bombarded before it stands a chance. Win again?

[Skirmisher]

Oh? Dooku is Human, and therefore wouldn't be allowed to be on the Xeno team.

 

This is why I threw out Yoda when I included the Republics Jedi.

[Guest MarvelFan15]

I imagine the Emperor, or possibly Palpatine, cross breeding Phykers and Force-Sensitive individuals to create a team of Specialized soldiers to bolster the SSM's forces.

 

What would make it even better was if the Phyker/Force-user combo had the proper genes for augumentation into a SSM...

[Skirmisher]

I imagine the Emperor, or possibly Palpatine, cross breeding Phykers and Force-Sensitive individuals to create a team of Specialized soldiers to bolster the SSM's forces.

 

What would make it even better was if the Phyker/Force-user combo had the proper genes for augumentation into a SSM...

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SUPER GREY JEDI KNIGHTS!!!!! :!: :!:

[Guest boston_celtics]

I only put those arguments because Skirmisher asked me to (indirectly) I already stated before that the Empire + Imperium could win by themselves.

[Guest Zreth]

If I put an equal amount of armies in both sides can I stick in my Stargate Rep's cause I think I have an Idea on how they win if they get plopped in.

[Guest MarvelFan15]

If I put an equal amount of armies in both sides can I stick in my Stargate Rep's cause I think I have an Idea on how they win if they get plopped in.

 

Perhaps...

[Guest MarvelFan15]

I only put those arguments because Skirmisher asked me to (indirectly) I already stated before that the Empire + Imperium could win by themselves.

 

Ahh...I see.

 

The Void Dragon will probably be a great help to the Necrons, though.

[Guest Zreth]

Do I get a chance to prove that the Xeno's will win with my guys in there?

[Guest ricrery]

Proof please. Replicators would stand how much chance against projectiles?

[comic_book_fan]

HA again! Star Wars ships have faster FTL speeds and probably accelerate much faster than the Enterprise, no contest.

 

Yes I am certain, 800 gigawatts <<< 200 gigatons, and that's the lower limit, I assume ISD ships fire 800 teratons per second on average for half an hour before piercing, take a guess which one has more shields.

enterprise D travel over 3'000 times the speed of light.

[Skirmisher]

Ahh...I see.

 

The Void Dragon will probably be a great help to the Necrons, though.

Yes, the Void Dragon is a definite Trump Card here. It may even win the war before Humanity can adapt to it's Technopathy.

 

 

Do I get a chance to prove that the Xeno's will win with my guys in there?

Yes. But remember, there is a debate here, so be prepared to hit some opposition.

 

 

Proof please. Replicators would stand how much chance against projectiles?

Replicators stand a chance against Regular Projectiles. With the Mass production capabilities of the Republic and Empire, and with the stream lining and augmentation of the Federation and others, the Super Space Marines would probably be equipped with Plasma/Melta Cannons. These weapons would be more than enough to completely destroy even Human Form Replicators.

 

 

enterprise D travel over 3'000 times the speed of light.

This has been talked about before. The Federation has one of the Slowest FTL of the Coalition. Though the one to hold that actual slowest would be the UNSC with only around 750c speeds I think...

[Guest ricrery]

Weyland is the slowest. Besides, the GE has ships going millions of times the speed of light.

[Guest boston_celtics]

OK, how about this...

 

There have always been, effectively, more Orks than humans. It has been said that if all the Ork clans were to band together, the Imperium would be overrun.

 

Since Ork is now a race in singular, that means all the Ork clans. Which means the Imperium is, effectively, beaten.

 

The Empire and Republic could assist, but it took the Republic awhile to defeat the CIS, and I doubt the Empire can defeat the Tau, Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Tyranids by themselves.

 

Necrons wipe out the remaining human forces, who pose zero threat with the loss of the Imperium, Empire, and Republic.

[Guest Zreth]

Okay Skirm, My plan mostly involves the Replicators mixing up with the Necrons. Since this is both the block form and nanite Replicators they make up for each other weaknesses the block form being immune to all forms of energy weapons and also having made themselves immune to the Ancient tech that makes Replicators fall apart and the Nanites being able to rebuild themselves from even enemy projectiles means the only way left to destroy them is to instantly destroy all the nanites of one instantly with a termendous force which is where the Necrons come in being insanely tough. Now for the ways that they can defeat the enemy there are a couple first we now have Necrons who heal themselves using the projectiles of enemies who can (Thanks to the nanite Replicators) enter your body and shut down your vital systems, have a power source which comes from drawing power from an infinite amount of mini-universes, as well as being able to reshape themselves to make any weapon they need instantly, also thanks to the fact that we are using both replicators can burn through the weapons and armour of enemies by being near them and simply taking apart the weapons atom by atom, also the block form Replicators have also consumed planets in about a days time before so that's another option, and since they can build their troops instantly by simply taking atoms form the planet and rearranging them into the needed molecules as well as being able to build new troops from dead troops or dead enemies meaning an infinite amount of troops with an infinite amount of power that can kill you by being near you that can eat your weapons also if any missles are used to attack them nanite clouds can stop the blasts instantly.