Coalition Of Mankind

[Skirmisher]

I think you ignored the androids of SW. They are almost sentient, can learn faster than any human, oh, and can also download information as well as be reprogrammed.

Almost but not, UNSC Smart AI's have all the capabilities of a Human, except they exist in software allowing them to operate at Extremely high speeds. They have Perfect Memories, can learn new info in microseconds (Although cataloging massive amounts takes time) They can easily download new info and even other AIs, and are too smart to allow themselves to be reprogrammed. They can also learn and grow and are able to fully express creativity in new situations. They are better than Droids in all regards. The only thing that SW could give them is Bodies, and a bigger storage capacity, which would give them mobility and a longer lifespan.

 

 

Block Replicators can't be hacked since they are just a bunch of block that connect and make the illusion of actual electric impulses from a brain

And what about this cannot be disrupted by an AI?

 

 

the only way you can access Ancient tech is to have the Ancient tech or an open Ancient computer none of which they have.

No, but leaving the AI out to be absorbed would allow the AI to infiltrate the Replicators and shut them down from the inside. They would fall for it since they still need to collect information on their enemies and then the AI would get in and frag everything. Maybe even rewrite their code to attack the Xenos.

 

 

 

Also I don't think the Necrons can be hacked right so wouldn't that make up?

Necrons can't be hacked because I don't think they even have software... or hardware for that matter.

 

 

Also Zreth... are you posting on a cellphone or something, because I find your lack of Paragraphing disturbing.

[Guest Zreth]

And what about this cannot be disrupted by an AI?

Well there isn't really any computer to it, it's more like an ant colony where they can all communicate to each other and think as a hive but there isn't really any computer it's more of a brain then a computer.Also like

 

 

No, but leaving the AI out to be absorbed would allow the AI to infiltrate the Replicators and shut them down from the inside. They would fall for it since they still need to collect information on their enemies and then the AI would get in and frag everything. Maybe even rewrite their code to attack the Xenos.

Well that could work but Replicators aren't really that connected anyways as they can perform whole plans without others knowing meaning while they do have a network in which they can communicate they are not capable of sending viruses to others and are not mixed with each other

 

 

 

Necrons can't be hacked because I don't think they even have software... or hardware for that matter.

So would that in no way make up for the downfall of Nanites.

 

 

Also Zreth... are you posting on a cellphone or something, because I find your lack of Paragraphing disturbing.

Actually there are a couple reasons for tht first is that I don't usually bother to put things in paragraphs cause I leave and do other stuff, second cause it's really just sort of a habit I have, third cause I sometimes just forget to put in periods all together and a bit later I go back and say "Aw crap..meh it's fine" and I end up getting giant sentances which I don't bother to cut up.

[Skirmisher]

Well there isn't really any computer to it, it's more like an ant colony where they can all communicate to each other and think as a hive but there isn't really any computer it's more of a brain then a computer.Also like

If connected then they should be able to be hacked over wifi, if not then I'm sure that their connector signal can be jammed with the right technology.

 

 

Well that could work but Replicators aren't really that connected anyways as they can perform whole plans without others knowing meaning while they do have a network in which they can communicate they are not capable of sending viruses to others and are not mixed with each other

Yet they still update as a race once in a while (IIRC every day) and while some could escape the now turned Replicators could easily split their time between finding/converting them and assisting in the destruction of the Xeno.

 

 

So would that in no way make up for the downfall of Nanites.

Not really, What it does is it takes a "Fighter" from the Xeno team and puts it on the Human Team. The Necrons have and always will be on the Xeno team regardless, but now instead of facing just humanity, they have to face Humanity and a faction that once was on their team.

[Skirmisher]

I have an Idea. Why don't we collaborate together in order to develop a Story.

 

I can easily cover the IOM and the UNSC. With a bit of research I think I can handle the Innersphere (Mechwarriors).

[Guest DataSnake]

Depending on whether it's the current or pre-Heresy Imperium, the human side may also have the Psyker-O-Matic^TM, a device created by the Emperor that turns ordinary humans into alpha-class psykers without driving them insane. In the "present" era, it was destroyed by the Adepta Sororitas in Faith and Fire. If available, it would be a huge advantage for the humans.

[Skirmisher]

Depending on whether it's the current or pre-Heresy Imperium, the human side may also have the Psyker-O-Matic^TM, a device created by the Emperor that turns ordinary humans into alpha-class psykers without driving them insane. In the "present" era, it was destroyed by the Adepta Sororitas in Faith and Fire. If available, it would be a huge advantage for the humans.

Nope, MF15 says current era IOM, with a resurrected Emperor. But, if created by the Emperor then could he not just re-build it?

[Guest MarvelFan15]

Nope, MF15 says current era IOM, with a resurrected Emperor. But, if created by the Emperor then could he not just re-build it?

 

Most likely...

 

But I think it would be a tad bit unnecessary, giving the fact that the EOM might just cross-breed Psyker/Force users, and, once he has an extremely powerful specimen, clone him. Trillions of Super Grey Jedi Knights...

 

He could always use it during the early years, when Humanity is still merging tech, though.

[Guest MarvelFan15]

I have an idea: Since a storyline seems to be evading us (as of now), why don't we envision some of the weapons the come about by merging the tech. A New Bolter design could hit the market. Plasma weapons galore! Several revisioned Titans would be making their way onto the battlefield...with Hypermatter reactors, instead of the old, outdated, plasma reactors.

 

So, any ideas for cross-designs?

[Guest Scar]

Out of curiosity, wouldn't the Tau Empire bring the Kroot to the table what with all the new biological entities to consume for xenomorphic style evolution?

[Guest MarvelFan15]

Out of curiosity, wouldn't the Tau Empire bring the Kroot to the table what with all the new biological entities to consume for xenomorphic style evolution?

 

I'm unfamiliar with the Kroot. Please, tell me more about them.

[Skirmisher]

I'm unfamiliar with the Kroot. Please, tell me more about them.

The Kroot eat those they kill and due to their special physiology incorporate their meals DNA into their own.

[Guest MarvelFan15]

The Kroot eat those they kill and due to their special physiology incorporate their meals DNA into their own.

 

Hmm...So, if they were to eat a Super Grey Jedi Knight, then they would gain some force powers/psyker powers/superstrength?

[Skirmisher]

Hmm...So, if they were to eat a Super Grey Jedi Knight, then they would gain some force powers/psyker powers/superstrength?

Access to the Force, yes

Psychic abilities, yes

Super Strength, no.

 

The first two are inherent Genetic qualities of the Soldier, they are either the reason that this soldier was picked or grown for this role. These abilities would be present in their DNA. However the Super Strength and Super Resilience is more enhancement and augmentative then any sort of Genetic quality.

 

But all of this is assuming that Kroot can actually take down and eat a SJGK... because if the fact that they would gods on the battlefield doesn't help them then taking a cue from the Spartans, they would immolate their dead by detonating their armours power supply. Since they just might be using miniature Hypermatter reactors (Best power supply in the Coalition) and Hypermatter is actually slightly better than Anti-matter, that's like adding a Nuke to a Viking funeral pyre...

[Guest MarvelFan15]

Access to the Force, yes

Psychic abilities, yes

Super Strength, no.

 

The first two are inherent Genetic qualities of the Soldier, they are either the reason that this soldier was picked or grown for this role. These abilities would be present in their DNA. However the Super Strength and Super Resilience is more enhancement and augmentative then any sort of Genetic quality.

 

But all of this is assuming that Kroot can actually take down and eat a SJGK... because if the fact that they would gods on the battlefield doesn't help them then taking a cue from the Spartans, they would immolate their dead by detonating their armours power supply. Since they just might be using miniature Hypermatter reactors (Best power supply in the Coalition) and Hypermatter is actually slightly better than Anti-matter, that's like adding a Nuke to a Viking funeral pyre...

 

@ Bolded: These were my exact thoughts.

 

And, how would the Coalition's new mechs turn out, if they were created by meshed tech and were powered by Hypermatter reactors?

[Skirmisher]

And, how would the Coalition's new mechs turn out, if they were created by meshed tech and were powered by Hypermatter reactors?

Well Battle Titans would become alot more like Battle Tech Mechs, but they would become Better armed, Better Armoured, and much faster with standard Jump Jets.

 

If you've seen any Battle Tech then imagine an Assault Mech that's the size of a Medium and moves like a Scout, except that all the Pilots Commands are conducted by Thought alone and not through controls and manual interfaces.

 

The current major problem with IOM Titans is that they are Very Large, but move like you'd expect them to, slow and like moving mountains, except those mountains can destroy mountains... Add in the speed and agility of Battle Tech and those titans would now be able to move like they were Very Large Powered Armour. The problem though with Battle Tech gear is Heat. They generate alot of heat and can't properly get rid of it... that's where the UNSC comes in surprisingly...

 

See they could take the Tech from the Pillar of Autumns upgraded engines to keep their mechs cool...

 

"Usually, the excess heat was conducted to a chemical agent which would then vent into space. However, the Autumn's upgraded specifications also included an upgraded cooling system, which featured a "laser-induced optical slurry of ions chilled to near-absolute zero", which is far more efficient than the typical method and removed the reliance on expendable chemical temperature-control substances."

 

Let's just say that these things would make whole armies of Xeno of all types shit themselves.

[Guest MarvelFan15]

Let's just say that these things would make whole armies of Xeno of all types shit themselves.

Necron titans?

[Skirmisher]

Necron titans?

Would still shit themselves...

[Guest MarvelFan15]

Would still shit themselves...

 

Really? They'd put up some fight, though, right?

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Next question:

 

I've been thinking...the Void Dragon was imprisoned on Mars, after the Emperor defeated and imprisoned it, correct? It then began to use its influence to help create many advancements in the technology currently on Mars. So, would it be too much of a stretch to suggest that the Void Dragon may help the other Xenos advance their own technology to the level the Necrons have? It might manifest in different forms, other than gauss weaponry, but still be around the same technological achievement, right?

[Skirmisher]

Really? They'd put up some fight, though, right?

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Next question:

 

I've been thinking...the Void Dragon was imprisoned on Mars, after the Emperor defeated and imprisoned it, correct? It then began to use its influence to help create many advancements in the technology currently on Mars. So, would it be too much of a stretch to suggest that the Void Dragon may help the other Xenos advance their own technology to the level the Necrons have? It might manifest in different forms, other than gauss weaponry, but still be around the same technological achievement, right?

Yes, I would think so, but all of the C'tans gifts come with a price, even if you can't see it. If the rest of the Xeno realise this then they would probably leave well enough alone, but then again they may not when faced with what the Coalition of Humanity would throw at them...

[Guest MarvelFan15]

Yes, I would think so, but all of the C'tans gifts come with a price, even if you can't see it. If the rest of the Xeno realise this then they would probably leave well enough alone, but then again they may not when faced with what the Coalition of Humanity would throw at them...

 

So...every other living alien organism would become entrenched in Living Metal exoskeletons?

[Skirmisher]

So...every other living alien organism would become entrenched in Living Metal exoskeletons?

Eventually, it depends on their Willingness to do so.

 

But then again... look at what they would have to face... With all that holy stuff the IOM likes to pull it would be like facing off against the Legions of Heaven, all full of Righteous Wrath... and them stuck in the trenches. The C'tan would appear to them like the Devil with the apple, and say soothing things, like how if they accept the offered gift they can win... and in this situation they are doomed if they do and doomed if they don't...

 

I personally think that they would accept, because when faced with either dieing in a bloody mess, or dieing slowly and taking the enemy with you, they would want to take the latter. Except the Eldar... they would probably try to convince all the other not to, and depending on how they do things they may succeed in "Saving" a few.

[Guest Zreth]

Well Battle Titans would become alot more like Battle Tech Mechs, but they would become Better armed, Better Armoured, and much faster with standard Jump Jets.

 

If you've seen any Battle Tech then imagine an Assault Mech that's the size of a Medium and moves like a Scout, except that all the Pilots Commands are conducted by Thought alone and not through controls and manual interfaces.

 

The current major problem with IOM Titans is that they are Very Large, but move like you'd expect them to, slow and like moving mountains, except those mountains can destroy mountains... Add in the speed and agility of Battle Tech and those titans would now be able to move like they were Very Large Powered Armour. The problem though with Battle Tech gear is Heat. They generate alot of heat and can't properly get rid of it... that's where the UNSC comes in surprisingly...

 

See they could take the Tech from the Pillar of Autumns upgraded engines to keep their mechs cool...

 

"Usually, the excess heat was conducted to a chemical agent which would then vent into space. However, the Autumn's upgraded specifications also included an upgraded cooling system, which featured a "laser-induced optical slurry of ions chilled to near-absolute zero", which is far more efficient than the typical method and removed the reliance on expendable chemical temperature-control substances."

 

Let's just say that these things would make whole armies of Xeno of all types shit themselves.

Okay I see a small problem with this how does it that the titans actually become faster and more agile.

[Guest MarvelFan15]

Okay I see a small problem with this how does it that the titans actually become faster and more agile.

 

Merging of technologies: Some people know more about mechs than others.

[Guest Zreth]

Merging of technologies: Some people know more about mechs than others.

No, The problem is reshaping the mech won't matter if it can't support the weight of it's new form so the materials will have to be harder and if it becomes dense enough it will end up sinking through the ground anyways. There isn't really a way to build an agile mech that size without it collapsing or sinking through the earth.

[Guest MarvelFan15]

No, The problem is reshaping the mech won't matter if it can't support the weight of it's new form so the materials will have to be harder and if it becomes dense enough it will end up sinking through the ground anyways. There isn't really a way to build an agile mech that size without it collapsing or sinking through the earth.

 

There's multiple ways to solve the agility problem. It's possible to create new, stronger metals without having them get heavier. Also, new power sources would help.