Guest callisto Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 At the Chesapeak bay in Maryland Juggernaut is under a lockdown until he breaks out tearring the place apart and killing 7 soldiers wounding 23Captain America is sent for to try and track down Juggernaut Lucky for him he knows juggernaut has some friends Gotham city.It is three oclock at night when a bank alarm sounds and batman shows up to find the juggernaut. Juggernaut whips some rocks at him just barely missing by inches all of a sudden batman shoots mace in juggernauts eyes and then captain america comes and shoulder tackles juggs through a wallthe two heroes look at one another then all of a sudden Juggernaut stands up from the debris the two heroes are ready for him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tomisntblue Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 I think Batman and Capt together are resourceful enough to take Juggernaut. The fact that Batman was tracking him shows Bats is going to have a trick or 20 up his sleeve, while at the same time Capitan America is no fool and he knows what he's dealing with here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manar Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Captain America shouldertackles Juggernaut through a wall !!?OMG What vitamins has he been eating lately ? I want some! Bats and Cap can take Juggernaut, but not through hand to hand fighting. Like this they can only distract him at best. They need to retreat and bring some heavy stuff from the batcave. Afterwards Cain will learn what hapends to those who try to mess up Gotham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comic_book_fan Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Captain America shouldertackles Juggernaut through a wall !!?OMG What vitamins has he been eating lately ? I want some! Bats and Cap can take Juggernaut, but not through hand to hand fighting. Like this they can only distract him at best. They need to retreat and bring some heavy stuff from the batcave. Afterwards Cain will learn what hapends to those who try to mess up Gotham!cap might be able to buckel juggs knees like he did thor and flip him over or trip him up that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 cap might be able to buckel juggs knees like he did thor and flip him over or trip him up that way.Impossible. Juggernaut is nothing like Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenaryblade Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Dang I was going to use Batman to continue my Batman arc, but fairs fair I don't have a monopoly, as to the fight Bat and Cap take jugs down after a hard fight. Strength is great but strategy is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bladephyre Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Dang I was going to use Batman to continue my Batman arc, but fairs fair I don't have a monopoly, as to the fight Bat and Cap take jugs down after a hard fight. Strength is great but strategy is better. Juggernaut is not above colapsing an entire building on himself to eliminate his enemies, he has done it before. While juggernaut has been taken out of a fight before by the likes of Spiderman and such and Bats and Cap are definately smart enought to set him up for whatever it is they have planned, I am not sure that they will stay alive long enough to follow through. Spidersense and agility are all that kept spiderman from getting flattened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Oh c'mon, Batman will have something prepared for this kinda situation. Hes got batarangs that incapacitate Doomsday, so he will have something for a nigh-unstopable brick like Juggy. cap would die though. Hes not as fast or as intelligent as Batman so hed get stomped by Juggy, then Juggy would get beaten by Bats via electricity, explosives, chemicals, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bladephyre Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Oh c'mon, Batman will have something prepared for this kinda situation. Hes got batarangs that incapacitate Doomsday, so he will have something for a nigh-unstopable brick like Juggy. cap would die though. Hes not as fast or as intelligent as Batman so hed get stomped by Juggy, then Juggy would get beaten by Bats via electricity, explosives, chemicals, etc... ok. 1. Batman does not have batarangs that can incapacitate Doomsday, maybe in the cartoon or something. He does not have anything that will make a difference to Juggernaut. 2. Cap is just as fast if not faster than Batman, and in combat he is at least just as talented if not better. He is also a better tactician, not as deductive or as good a detective no but in a fight for your life situation he is at least just as good. 3. Electricity, explosives, chemicals, etc... vs Juggernaut? Have you read a comic book? He laughed at Thor's Godforce blast, he ignored spiderman channeling the entire NYC powergrid into him, and chemicals just plain have no effect. I am not saying that Juggernaut is a gaurenteed win but I will assure you they will not be beating him with damaging attacks. They could outsmart him easily by say, sinking him in the foundation of a building, maybe even teleporting away. Juggernaut may never lay a hand on them if they are smart and stay away but his just widespread area of damage may kill them as a side effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 ok. 1. Batman does not have batarangs that can incapacitate Doomsday, maybe in the cartoon or something. He does not have anything that will make a difference to Juggernaut. 2. Cap is just as fast if not faster than Batman, and in combat he is at least just as talented if not better. He is also a better tactician, not as deductive or as good a detective no but in a fight for your life situation he is at least just as good. 3. Electricity, explosives, chemicals, etc... vs Juggernaut? Have you read a comic book? He laughed at Thor's Godforce blast, he ignored spiderman channeling the entire NYC powergrid into him, and chemicals just plain have no effect. I am not saying that Juggernaut is a gaurenteed win but I will assure you they will not be beating him with damaging attacks. They could outsmart him easily by say, sinking him in the foundation of a building, maybe even teleporting away. Juggernaut may never lay a hand on them if they are smart and stay away but his just widespread area of damage may kill them as a side effect.ADDING TO THIS: In reality, Batarangs are practically useless here... Juggs has a personal force field that actually slows down whatever enters its range before impacting him, like that one Thor threw his Hammer at Juggernaut... Batarangs fall to the ground before they even get close considering Thor throws the hammer WAY harder and faster than Batman can dish out his rangs.... The same goes for the Shield. Unless this is a different version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 captain america and batman would not pose much of a threat to someone like juggernaught. in fact they arent even in the same level to compare. juggernaut is a heavy hitter meaning he is up there with guys like the thing, colosus, and even the hulk. how can you compare two HUMANS to someone who bench presses buildings and shatters mountains? sure, cap and bats are smart and resourceful but it isnt fair to put these guys up in a fight. i am not biased here i love batman And cap, but juggs is nearly indestructable so nothing in their arsenal can hurt him. secondly these two are human therefore have limits and cant duck and dogde all day long. eventually, one will slip up and juggernaut can go far longer :he does not tire, or need food,oxegen,or sleep. all it would take is one hit from juggs to pulverize every bone in their bodies to kitty litter. i laughed when cap pushed juggs through a wall. i laughed hard. therfore, juggernaut takes the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zreth Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 ADDING TO THIS: In reality, Batarangs are practically useless here... Juggs has a personal force field that actually slows down whatever enters its range before impacting him, like that one Thor threw his Hammer at Juggernaut... Batarangs fall to the ground before they even get close considering Thor throws the hammer WAY harder and faster than Batman can dish out his rangs.... The same goes for the Shield. Unless this is a different version.Actually, Caps shield might pass through I'll follow up later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baneblade Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Captain America and Batman will win this, in the present given situation. Batman won;t be tossing 'rangs to incapacitate Naut here. He knows better. He's been tracking him, so he knows what he's dealing with here. What they need to do is this, and probably which comprises the most difficult task: Remove his helmet. It has been done before. With Caps and Batman tagging, I will bet on it they will definitely pull it off here, but only after several city blocks are turned to rubble. That is the collateral damage they have to live with here. Caps is the hit in, strike like a pebble and scamper part, and Bats is the distance surveillance and implication part. However, once that helmet is off (turned loose), and pulled away from Jugs by cap's shield strike, Bats unloads a sonic emmitter to make Jugs barf away his intestines. He could do worse, from the distance ofcourse, but I am sure this will incapacitate Jugs enough for the twosome to attack with a whole lotta backup. Against two chief tacticians from the respective top publishers? There's no way the ground to ground Jugs wins this. No matter how big n' mighty he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bladephyre Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Captain America and Batman will win this, in the present given situation. Batman won;t be tossing 'rangs to incapacitate Naut here. He knows better. He's been tracking him, so he knows what he's dealing with here. What they need to do is this, and probably which comprises the most difficult task: Remove his helmet. It has been done before. With Caps and Batman tagging, I will bet on it they will definitely pull it off here, but only after several city blocks are turned to rubble. That is the collateral damage they have to live with here. Caps is the hit in, strike like a pebble and scamper part, and Bats is the distance surveillance and implication part. However, once that helmet is off (turned loose), and pulled away from Jugs by cap's shield strike, Bats unloads a sonic emmitter to make Jugs barf away his intestines. He could do worse, from the distance ofcourse, but I am sure this will incapacitate Jugs enough for the twosome to attack with a whole lotta backup. Against two chief tacticians from the respective top publishers? There's no way the ground to ground Jugs wins this. No matter how big n' mighty he is. I really doubt that a sonic emitter would do all that much considering he has fought Banshee and Siryn with little to no effect on him with or without the helmet. Also just saying that is does work there is a good chance that would just make him get even more destructive with lashing out at random and pounding craters in the ground. The key is not to "attack" him, but to eliminate the threat, or get rid of him. The best and most assured way: Bruce pulls out a large briefcase with $100,000,000 in it and pays him to go away. Cain would take it and leave with a smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarvelFan15 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 The best and most assured way: Bruce pulls out a large briefcase with $100,000,000 in it and pays him to go away. Cain would take it and leave with a smile. I like the way you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Actually, Caps shield might pass through I'll follow up later.Mhhh, interesting... and yet it repelled Thor's hammer. SHOW ME THIS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Captain America and Batman will win this, in the present given situation. Batman won;t be tossing 'rangs to incapacitate Naut here. He knows better. He's been tracking him, so he knows what he's dealing with here. What they need to do is this, and probably which comprises the most difficult task: Remove his helmet. It has been done before. With Caps and Batman tagging, I will bet on it they will definitely pull it off here, but only after several city blocks are turned to rubble. That is the collateral damage they have to live with here. Caps is the hit in, strike like a pebble and scamper part, and Bats is the distance surveillance and implication part. However, once that helmet is off (turned loose), and pulled away from Jugs by cap's shield strike, Bats unloads a sonic emmitter to make Jugs barf away his intestines. He could do worse, from the distance ofcourse, but I am sure this will incapacitate Jugs enough for the twosome to attack with a whole lotta backup. Against two chief tacticians from the respective top publishers? There's no way the ground to ground Jugs wins this. No matter how big n' mighty he is. okay..sighs..read some comics with juggernaught to understand his power.juggernauht is powered by the ruby of crytaoak(not spelled right) which gives him the power of a GOD. a god whose power is limitless strength.juggernaught could even beat up the hulk as shown in WWH. you cant just say city blocks will be smashed to rubble to indicate it was a hard foght battle. hands down the jugg would win. you are implying that two smart humans can beat up a GOD. the only way to remove jugernaughts helmet is by brute strenght, which cap and bat lack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheJ0ke Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 okay..sighs..read some comics with juggernaught to understand his power.juggernauht is powered by the ruby of crytaoak(not spelled right) which gives him the power of a GOD. a god whose power is limitless strength.juggernaught could even beat up the hulk as shown in WWH. you cant just say city blocks will be smashed to rubble to indicate it was a hard foght battle. hands down the jugg would win. you are implying that two smart humans can beat up a GOD. the only way to remove jugernaughts helmet is by brute strenght, which cap and bat lack!Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't removing Marko's helmet more a matter of agility (i.e. getting in position without being smashed to bits) than a matter of brute strength? Still not sure why Bruce decided to try pepper spray though (especially since it wouldn't do ANYTHING) and how it managed to bypass the forcefield... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Manar Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 okay..sighs..read some comics with juggernaught to understand his power.juggernauht is powered by the ruby of crytaoak(not spelled right) which gives him the power of a GOD. a god whose power is limitless strength.Actually he is the avatar of a God, so he only has what power Cytorak allows him to have. (And Cytorak is not actually a god. Close, but not quite.) Still he has more than enough, juggernaught could even beat up the hulk as shown in WWH. you cant just say city blocks will be smashed to rubble to indicate it was a hard foght battle. hands down the jugg would win. you are implying that two smart humans can beat up a GOD. Been there, done that for Batman. Just ask Darkseid. the only way to remove jugernaughts helmet is by brute strenght, which cap and bat lack!It doesnt take that much strength. I have seen Angel remove the helmet after Beast loosened it a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Actuallt he is the avatar of a God, so he only has what power Cytorak allows him to have. (And cytorak is not actually a god. Close, but not quite.) Still he has more than enough, Been there, done that for Batman. Just ask Darkseid. It doesnt take that much strength. I have seen Angel remove the hemlet after Beast loosened it a little.He killed Darkseid with a gun... a gun designed to fire a projectile that can kill his kind... is there a gun that can kill Cain? I'm going by when Hulk literally smashes Juggernaut's head into a mountain, with the helmet on, it doesn't even come loose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baneblade Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 okay..sighs..read some comics with juggernaught to understand his power.juggernauht is powered by the ruby of crytaoak(not spelled right) which gives him the power of a GOD. a god whose power is limitless strength.juggernaught could even beat up the hulk as shown in WWH. you cant just say city blocks will be smashed to rubble to indicate it was a hard foght battle. hands down the jugg would win. you are implying that two smart humans can beat up a GOD. the only way to remove jugernaughts helmet is by brute strenght, which cap and bat lack! Taking into full account the comments of other folks as well which verify:1) Juggy is not a God2) Brute strength. You should maybe check out numerous issues of X-men. Beast, Angel, Cyclops teamed up on different occasions to take it off, then have Xavier do a telepathic probe on him3) As for Juggy beating Hulk, its a to and fro thing my friend, not a given, that Juggy can pound Hulk. 4) Which substantiates the reality that there is no bigger fool than Juggy. (Bizzarro maybe). He's been outwitted by: X-men, Spiderman, Hulk, Avengers, Spiderman again.. I think that says about enough. 5) WHich is why I simply put forth: that against two of the foremost strategists from Marvel and DC togther? Jugs has no chance. He will be outsmarted. I never said I am banking on a sonic emitter or missiles. I am only saying by degree of comparison, if Spiderman, X-men outsnarted him, and even Hulk, Bats and Caps together? I would bet my money on the brains rather than the brawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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