Guest catnips47 Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Bullshit. Many argue that SSJ3 Goku is *stronger* than Kid Buu, and I mean many. What an awful argument. ''LOADS OF PEOPLE SAID THIS SO IT MUST BE TRUE !!''. That is in no way shape or form true. Especially seeing as the series says otherwise. Mystic Gohan; most powerful unfused character (that includes villains) in the series. In your opinion. Until you provide evidence, that's all there is. And what many people seem to forget is that goku at ssj3 would have pretty much been as strong as mystic gohan by the time he fought kid buu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ricrery Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 What an awful argument. ''LOADS OF PEOPLE SAID THIS SO IT MUST BE TRUE !!''. That is in no way shape or form true. Especially seeing as the series says otherwise. The only reason Kid Buu was winning was because of energy, if SSJ3 Goku wasn't restrained, he'd win. In your opinion. Until you provide evidence, that's all there is. And what many people seem to forget is that goku at ssj3 would have pretty much been as strong as mystic gohan by the time he fought kid buu. That's been confirmed by the creator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Looks like you were right, Akuma... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catnips47 Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 The only reason Kid Buu was winning was because of energy, if SSJ3 Goku wasn't restrained, he'd win. Goku wasn't restrained. I won't deny that he was more durable and could maintain his energy better when he was fighting majin buu. But he was probably stronger when fighting kid buu, and still couldn't keep up. He even thinks this in 280. That's been confirmed by the creator. No, Toriyama confirmed that he wanted gohan to be the strongest at some stage throughout the show. He was twice. Against cell and super buu. He wanted gohan to kill buu but the fans wanted goku to do it. He was the strongest character at the time of fighting super buu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nuan07 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Nuan, go *vulgarity*ing learn how get an editor or something. English is not my first language and I can spell it better than anyone on this entire thread.see JP this is what im talking about, the type of false sense of elitism, that can be expected from a child... it would be cute if it wasnt so sad and pathetic. you really cant little boy and your grammar is just as bad, your opinion is the only thing you have to back up any claim you make, and as your opinion means didily squat, maybe its time you went to bed and let the adults talk. i normally wouldnt pull anyone up on something as trivial as linguistics, but as you mentioned it first... must be a sad day for you. Kid buu wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 see JP this is what im talking about, the type of false sense of elitism, that can be expected from a child... it would be cute if it wasnt so sad and pathetic. you really cant little boy and your grammar is just as bad, your opinion is the only thing you have to back up any claim you make, and as your opinion means didily squat, maybe its time you went to bed and let the adults talk. i normally wouldnt pull anyone up on something as trivial as linguistics, but as you mentioned it first... must be a sad day for you. Kid buu winsI see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AKUMA Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Looks like you were right, Akuma...of course i was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Mh. So Fat Buu and Super Buu are =. They both can take out Kid Buu before he gets too strong. okay. now its Fat Buu and Super Buu. I'll go with the leaner one of the wo. Super Buu is the strongest one. Hip hooray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Younggunna Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Kid buu destroys all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tomisntblue Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 I love how the argument is basically, "I say this!" "Well I say this!!" "Prove it!!!" "I say this again, you prove it!!!" "You have NO PROOF! I think it's this!!" "You suck and can't prove anything! It's this!" "No This! Prove it" "Prove it!" "Prove it!!" and so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catnips47 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Mh. So Fat Buu and Super Buu are =. They both can take out Kid Buu before he gets too strong. okay. now its Fat Buu and Super Buu. I'll go with the leaner one of the wo. Super Buu is the strongest one. Hip hooray. How is Fat Buu anywhere near Super Buu ? And how are either stronger than Kid Buu ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catnips47 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 I love how the argument is basically, "I say this!" "Well I say this!!" "Prove it!!!" "I say this again, you prove it!!!" "You have NO PROOF! I think it's this!!" "You suck and can't prove anything! It's this!" "No This! Prove it" "Prove it!" "Prove it!!" and so on Please say that wasn't aimed at me. As I seem to be the only one using the actual anime and manga here. Not (insert buu character) ''shift - full stop'' (insert buu character). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Younggunna Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 How is Fat Buu anywhere near Super Buu ? And how are either stronger than Kid Buu ? Kid Buu took on Goku a Sayian 3 with out a sweat. Fat buu had trouble dealing with him.Super buu I dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 How is Fat Buu anywhere near Super Buu ? And how are either stronger than Kid Buu ?Look at it from my perspective okay. OKAY?!?!?! Fat Buu + Good Buu + evil Buu right? Reverse the order of that equation, what do you get? Super Buu. Makes sense to me. See that from my perspective. its like the commutative property, you can change the order and still get the same result, only this time in the terms of power levels, not appearance. See the even so more from my perspective. Okay, on to Kid Buu. Like you said, Kid buu gets stronger as he fights, (Which I think he ripped off of Broly but whatever...), so initially, he would be at his base power level, right? This would mean that since Fat and Super Buu have higher power levels (Absorbed Kais, Etc.) and Kid Buu is just the base form, before all that absorbing, they could potentially kill him before he gets strong enough to decimate them. Ditto what I said perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Kid Buu took on Goku a Sayian 3 with out a sweat. Fat buu had trouble dealing with him.Super buu I dont know.Last I checked, Fat Buu gave SS3 Goku a hard time. SS3 Goku was going toe to toe with Kid Buu... And Gotenks SS3 had a hard time with Super Buu... and SS3 is at least on par with SS3 Goku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catnips47 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Look at it from my perspective okay. OKAY?!?!?! Fat Buu + Good Buu + evil Buu right? Reverse the order of that equation, what do you get? Super Buu. Makes sense to me. See that from my perspective. its like the commutative property, you can change the order and still get the same result, only this time in the terms of power levels, not appearance. See the even so more from my perspective. Okay, on to Kid Buu. Like you said, Kid buu gets stronger as he fights, (Which I think he ripped off of Broly but whatever...), so initially, he would be at his base power level, right? This would mean that since Fat and Super Buu have higher power levels (Absorbed Kais, Etc.) and Kid Buu is just the base form, before all that absorbing, they could potentially kill him before he gets strong enough to decimate them. Ditto what I said perspective. I disagree. Super Buu = evil buu (and his energy) + the raw power of fat buu. Super Buu was the result of the evil taking over. Had fat Buu won, the result wouldn't have been the same, as the passive nature of the kais (and the kais only it would appear) have negative effects on his power. They only had higher power levels than him 5 million years ago. As I stated earlier he seemed to magically imprint the strength of his counterparts into himself. Otherwise, he wouldn't have even been able to go toe to toe with ssj 2 goku. That's what I mean. There are essentially two kid buus. The one who was weaker than a regular ssj - 5 million years ago. And the one who can batter a ssj3 5 million years later. So there still hasn't been any evidence that they start off with a higher power level than him. And he has just too much to put on the table. He clearly doesn't run out of energy........ever. Fat Buu clearly did. Not sure about super buu. He also has the best regeneration out of them it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catnips47 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Last I checked, Fat Buu gave SS3 Goku a hard time. SS3 Goku was going toe to toe with Kid Buu... And Gotenks SS3 had a hard time with Super Buu... and SS3 is at least on par with SS3 Goku. That's the thing though. SSJ3 Goku owned fat buu. Fat buu couldn't even really hurt goku, hence the smiling in 245 when he gets hit in the face on purpose. He never did that with kid buu, and he was arguably, quite a bit stronger when he fought kid buu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranglehold-prime Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Kid buu>Super buu>Evil buu>Fat buu>Dabura Who's MV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catnips47 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Majin Vegeta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 That's the thing though. SSJ3 Goku owned fat buu. Fat buu couldn't even really hurt goku, hence the smiling in 245 when he gets hit in the face on purpose. He never did that with kid buu, and he was arguably, quite a bit stronger when he fought kid buu.Fat Buu liked him. Heh, he was like, Lets play!!!! I'm sure he didn't mind... I don't think he got mad in that fight.... but I may be wrong. There is a Good Buu, MJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catnips47 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Fat Buu liked him. Heh, he was like, Lets play!!!! I'm sure he didn't mind... I don't think he got mad in that fight.... but I may be wrong. There is a Good Buu, MJ. Nah, he got proper pissed off in 246. He even went as far to try and suffocate him with his stomach. MJ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranglehold-prime Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Majin Vegeta Oh ok.It could be a tie between MV and fat buu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Oh ok.It could be a tie between MV and fat buu.......Majin Vegeta tried to destroy Fat Buu with a sacrificial blast that failed. Fat Buu regenerated like it was nothing to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catnips47 Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Oh ok.It could be a tie between MV and fat buu. Really ? The series basically showed the exact opposite. Vegeta nearly got beaten to death. He nearly died from being sat on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranglehold-prime Posted May 29, 2010 Share Posted May 29, 2010 Really ? The series basically showed the exact opposite. Vegeta nearly got beaten to death. He nearly died from being sat on. MV was going toe to toe with Goku. He lost because he killed himself tryiuing to defeat Fat buu. Just my opinion. In DBGT fatbuu was really weak. fat buu couldnt even take on ss3 goku like younggunna said. he didnt get beaten to death,he just did a sucide bomb like what Cell did. All I am saying is that in a rematch MV could prabably take on Fat buu. I mean Fatbuu lost to Kidbuu and Evil buu. Even Dabura got some hits on him. MV could prabably tie with DBGT Fat buu. I mean Fat buu has gotten soft over the series. MV is ruthless and full of rage. That's my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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