Guest LegendX Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I saw this and was dumbfounded. Could it really happen? Has it? Sorry I couldn't make it clickable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LegendX Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Guess the site makes links automatically...Didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Artemis Entreri Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Guess the site makes links automatically...Didn't know that. I don't believe it could. The problem is that GR is a demon. A powerful one but not nearly on the level of Galactus! Galactus is a Cosmic force of nature. In essence part of the very omniverse self! Ghost Rider is only a very small part of that in nature and in power! In fact I believe Galactus should had just simply banished GR back to Hell! Simple as that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujogoodie Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I don't think it's so much that Ghost Rider couldn't do it, so much as Galactus wouldn't react like that. He knows what he's doing, he's well aware of how people react to his duty, that's why he has Herald, the good ones warn the worlds to let them get away. He's above the people he kills because of his nature. Could Ghost Rider do it? Sure, would Galactus fall over like that? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarvelFan15 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 This was utter, complete PIS. ...Even though Ghost Rider is my homeboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 I don't think it's so much that Ghost Rider couldn't do it, so much as Galactus wouldn't react like that. He knows what he's doing, he's well aware of how people react to his duty, that's why he has Herald, the good ones warn the worlds to let them get away. He's above the people he kills because of his nature. Could Ghost Rider do it? Sure, would Galactus fall over like that? No.You sure? Wiki says it's "the ability to cause others to experience a level of emotional pain equivalent to that which they have caused others as a result of illegal or immoral activities" So since he's techniqually caused Billions of Billions of people extreme emotional pain with the distruction of their home planets, then couldn't this be somewhat posible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boston_celtics Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 You sure? Wiki says it's "the ability to cause others to experience a level of emotional pain equivalent to that which they have caused others as a result of illegal or immoral activities" So since he's techniqually caused Billions of Billions of people extreme emotional pain with the distruction of their home planets, then couldn't this be somewhat posible. Galactus actions are as immoral to him as killing ants are to exterminators. It gets messy sometimes, but it's a job that must be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 Galactus actions are as immoral to him as killing ants are to exterminators. It gets messy sometimes, but it's a job that must be done.No, how I read it is that he would experience the total accu mulation of all the Emotional pain that he's caused in others, not his own emotional pain (or lack thereof) at destroying these planets and their people. So unless he is completely incapable of feeling any emotion what so ever then I would think it would effect him. edit: it picked Cu.m out of accu mulation and changed it to "I use bad words"... I can see that this will be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest inzane06 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I agree with Skirmisher on this. it doesnt make him recall it , it makes him feel their pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujogoodie Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 You sure? Wiki says it's "the ability to cause others to experience a level of emotional pain equivalent to that which they have caused others as a result of illegal or immoral activities" So since he's techniqually caused Billions of Billions of people extreme emotional pain with the distruction of their home planets, then couldn't this be somewhat posible. What I'm saying is that he'd feel it, tell Ghost Rider that he already knew that, and move on about his buisness. Also, him eating those planets is consistenly keeping Abraxas from destroying the Multiverse, and I'll laugh at anybody who tries to charge Galactus with a crime. So as far as the comic book world, it isn't immoral or illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 What I'm saying is that he'd feel it, tell Ghost Rider that he already knew that, and move on about his buisness. Also, him eating those planets is consistenly keeping Abraxas from destroying the Multiverse, and I'll laugh at anybody who tries to charge Galactus with a crime. So as far as the comic book world, it isn't immoral or illegal.Your still missing the point, Inzane got it. He isn't forced to remember anything, he isn't forced to recall his own crimes, he isn't forced to remember what He did. He knows that he has caused pain in others, and even if he feels it at the time and ignores it, Penance Stare should still effect him. Because he gets hit with the Total Accumulation of all the Emotional Pain that He has caused to others. Even if the emotional pain of one person would be insignificant to him, it would be just a drop of water in a very large ocean of pain that he would feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LegendX Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Your still missing the point, Inzane got it. He isn't forced to remember anything, he isn't forced to recall his own crimes, he isn't forced to remember what He did. He knows that he has caused pain in others, and even if he feels it at the time and ignores it, Penance Stare should still effect him. Because he gets hit with the Total Accumulation of all the Emotional Pain that He has caused to others. Even if the emotional pain of one person would be insignificant to him, it would be just a drop of water in a very large ocean of pain that he would feel.I think Cujo's point was the all of that pain still wouldn't affect Big G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 I think Cujo's point was the all of that pain still wouldn't affect Big G.I guess it's all up to the writers. I say it would effect him, as he's wiped out Trillions upon Trillions of people, and like I said even if the pain of one person wouldn't effect him, that would be just one persons pain in an Ocean of pain that would hit big G. In all likelihood though, it would probably only make him retreat from the Earth for a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boston_celtics Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Thing is, GR can't actually hurt Big G. Sure, Penance Stare works like that, in theory. But GR cannot muster enough power to kill Big G. It's like Big G being in the center of a super-nova, in theory, the heat should kill him, but there isn't enough energy. Poo analogy, but it's all i got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chaos-with-honor Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Galactus is a force of nature, death incarnate. GR wasn't trying to kill him, and I agree that he couldn't. The rub is that this isn't that kind of debate. GR could definately make Galactus feel the emotional pain he has caused. No matter how insignifigant it is, Big G would feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujogoodie Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Your still missing the point, Inzane got it. He isn't forced to remember anything, he isn't forced to recall his own crimes, he isn't forced to remember what He did. He knows that he has caused pain in others, and even if he feels it at the time and ignores it, Penance Stare should still effect him. Because he gets hit with the Total Accumulation of all the Emotional Pain that He has caused to others. Even if the emotional pain of one person would be insignificant to him, it would be just a drop of water in a very large ocean of pain that he would feel. Right. And he would feel it and look at Ghost Rider and say... "Yes, Galactus is aware of the pain and suffering he has caused, it is you puny spectre, who is not aware of the pain that would come if the Mighty Galactus did not feed, a being that would not grant you a Herald to warn you of his coming. This planet, this galaxy, this multiverse, would fall should I not feed. The pain of those that fall before Galactus is minuscule compared to the constant hunger. Run back to Mephisto Daniel Ketch, and warn him, that should he send his Herald against me or mine, I shall revisit his plane, and finish what I started." Or something thereabouts. It might be shorter than that, like what he pwned Thanos with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chaos-with-honor Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Right. And he would feel it and look at Ghost Rider and say... "Yes, Galactus is aware of the pain and suffering he has caused, it is you puny spectre, who is not aware of the pain that would come if the Mighty Galactus did not feed, a being that would not grant you a Herald to warn you of his coming. This planet, this galaxy, this multiverse, would fall should I not feed. The pain of those that fall before Galactus is minuscule compared to the constant hunger. Run back to Mephisto Daniel Ketch, and warn him, that should he send his Herald against me or mine, I shall revisit his plane, and finish what I started." Or something thereabouts. It might be shorter than that, like what he pwned Thanos with.Being aware that something hurts and experiencing it are two entirely separate things. You can watch Tyson KO a guy back in his heyday. You'll even think to yourself, "Man, that would suck" or something thereabouts. Doesn't mean you've been in the ring with Tyson. A quote from Big G himself: "Your words are as empty as your heart!"I know not whether I have soul or no. But of this I am most certain ..."Your have taken from me what is mine! I will have her back!"So speaks Galactus!" – Galactus, Silver Surfer: Judgement Day, 1988 Galactus is obviously capable of emotion, as Jealousy is clearly demonstrated here, as well as rage. His pain at being alone is also hinted, strongly. Another: "Of what import are brief, namless lives ... to Galactus??" – Galactus, Fantastic Four Vol. 1, No. 49, April 1966 I call attention to the operative word in this statement - NAMELESS. By forcing him to experience the emotional pain that he has caused, pain which he can obviously feel, the lives he has destroyed cease to be nameless. They cease to matter not. For a brief moment, they become all consuming. Even the might of Galactus cannot overcome the sorrow, terror, pain... and Galactus falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujogoodie Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Or, he removes the emotion like he did to Silver Surfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chaos-with-honor Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Durring or after the mental break-down? I'll give you after. That might be the only way he can go on. But durring a soul crushing ordeal that carries the gut wrenching pain of trillions upon trillions of senselessly killed individuals? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest metamutant Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Big G would have to be at like 1% of his power having not fed for years for GR's stare to cause him another pain to kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boston_celtics Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 No, you're not getting it. Let me try something different... Ghost Rider is an RPG character. He has the ability called "Penance Stare." This ability will deal 99% of your current HP to you as damage. However, Penance Stare will not work if the opponent has a defense value higher than Ghost Rider's attack value. Ghost Rider's attack value is 80. Galactus' defense value is 2,000,000. Thus, the ability Penance Stare will fail and deal no damage to Galactus. See what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest metamutant Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 I think a severely weaken Galactus could be effected by the Penance Stare otherwise Big G doesn't even notice GR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujogoodie Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Durring or after the mental break-down? I'll give you after. That might be the only way he can go on. But durring a soul crushing ordeal that carries the gut wrenching pain of trillions upon trillions of senselessly killed individuals? I doubt it. What part of "I eat planets or the entire multiverse bites it' did you not get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 What part of "I eat planets or the entire multiverse bites it' did you not get?I'd guess what he was going for was that to the victims it is senseless killing. Has big G ever just stopped at a planet and discussed with the people that inhabit it, the reason why he has to eat their home? No, he hasn't. He has made heralds to warn people of his coming, but that's the extent of their duties. It's not as if they tell people that Big G is coming to eat their planet to ensure the survival of the multiverse... So to everyone that has their planet eaten it is senseless, and to the people too unfortunate to be able to leave their planets it is senseless killing. Chaos hit this whole thing on the head with a hammer with his last post. This really didn't require any more discussion after it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cujogoodie Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 That sucks for them. But you're going at this as if Galactus is like the Joker or Kletus Cassidy(Carnage), some guy who kills and doesn't really understand it all. Galactus knows what he's doing, he keeps himself hungry for that very reason. And the fact is, he's beyond human emotion, fear, anger, he knows it, and he can shut if off if he so chooses. He doesn't have to discuss what he does with anyone, there's no one that can hold him accountable but himself. And he does that just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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