Guest God-Speed_88 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Well, if he always wins then why does he get pwned? IDK, I'm not that knowledgeable about Lanterns... Haha when does he always get pawned? Maybe I missed something but the only time I know the Spectre was defeated was when Captain Marvel with the power of EVERYONE including beasts like Phantom Stranger took him on and that was because the Spectre didn't have a host. Even then he came back and defeated him. You see the Spectres power level work on how much the Presence backs him. Well as I recall...never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Haha when does he always get pawned? Maybe I missed something but the only time I know the Spectre was defeated was when Captain Marvel with the power of EVERYONE including beasts like Phantom Stranger took him on and that was because the Spectre didn't have a host. Even then he came back and defeated him. You see the Spectres power level work on how much the Presence backs him. Well as I recall...neverAdam punched a hole through him... etc... Well, Mangog was never willed away before... guess what? It happened to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest God-Speed_88 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Adam punched a hole through him... etc... Well, Mangog was never willed away before... guess what? It happened to him. Adam then get owned but the fact was that he punched a hole through him to start with...or should I say flew through him. Is there 10,000's of Mangogs? Well there is Lanterns and I haven't read of any that were willed away. I know Lanterns aren;t indestructible and some are easily defeating but I'm just saying I don't know any that were willed away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Adam then get owned but the fact was that he punched a hole through him to start with...or should I say flew through him. Is there 10,000's of Mangogs? Well there is Lanterns and I haven't read of any that were willed away. I know Lanterns aren;t indestructible and some are easily defeating but I'm just saying I don't know any that were willed away.Mh, perhaps he was semi intangible? No, just one and it gives normal Thor a hell of a time. Being able to will him away is a great feat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest God-Speed_88 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Mh, perhaps he was semi intangible? No, just one and it gives normal Thor a hell of a time. Being able to will him away is a great feat. Perhaps but it says to me that Adam is a force not to be dismissed. Also Adam defeating the JLA, JSA and the Titans was an impressive feat on its own. I'm not doubting the feat, all I'm saying is that maybe the Ring would prevent this from happening, since neither of us have a valid argument for or against this matter then I say its null void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Perhaps but it says to me that Adam is a force not to be dismissed. Also Adam defeating the JLA, JSA and the Titans was an impressive feat on its own. I'm not doubting the feat, all I'm saying is that maybe the Ring would prevent this from happening, since neither of us have a valid argument for or against this matter then I say its null void.Perhaps. I say it can work, you say its null and void. Lets leave it at that and let Omega present his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega11 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 I say it can work, you say its null and void. Lets leave it at that and let Omega present his opinion. Mangog possessed the strength; endurance, and durability of "a billion billion beings". He was obliterated with a thought. Imagine what Thor could do after putting some effort into it. Even if we assume that Thor couldn't just will away Sinestro while he has the Entity within him, he could simply separate him from the Entity, and then do it. Or maybe turn back time to before he merged with the Entity, and then kill him. The possibilities are endless. I have spoken. So let it be written, so let it be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest God-Speed_88 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Mangog possessed the strength; endurance, and durability of "a billion billion beings". He was obliterated with a thought. Imagine what Thor could do after putting some effort into it. Even if we assume that Thor couldn't just will away Sinestro while he has the Entity within him, he could simply separate him from the Entity, and then do it. Or maybe turn back time to before he merged with the Entity, and then kill him. The possibilities are endless. I have spoken. So let it be written, so let it be done. The fact you just said Sinestro would be beaten WITH the Entity tells me your argument is null and void haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega11 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 The fact you just said Sinestro would be beaten WITH the Entity tells me your argument is null and void haha. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest God-Speed_88 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 What? One, I didn't give Sinestro the Entity...because it would become an easy stomp. You tried to justify OdinForce Thor being able to beat Sinestro with the Entity which is the same as a Bat fan trying to explain how he would defeat Galactus with prep time haha. The Entity is more powerful than Ion, Parallax and the rest of Lanterns entities. Odin himself would be useless against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega11 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 The Entity is more powerful than Ion, Parallax and the rest of Lanterns entities. Odin himself would be useless against him. Uh huh. And what proof have you of that? All we've seen from it is the power to give life, not any substantial destructive abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest God-Speed_88 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Uh huh. And what proof have you of that? All we've seen from it is the power to give life, not any substantial destructive abilities. Well I'll make a bet with you, if the Entity doesn't turn out to be a force beyond that of Ion etc then I will apologise, however if infact it does then you have to agree to BA and Sinestro winning this fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega11 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Well I'll make a bet with you, if the Entity doesn't turn out to be a force beyond that of Ion etc then I will apologise, however if infact it does then you have to agree to BA and Sinestro winning this fight? Well yeah, that's the way these things work. You take what powers and feats a character has shown, so naturally if they show more powerful feats then they are judged to be more powerful. But it would have to show some pretty ridiculous feats to catch up to Odin-Force Thor's ridiculous feats. So as it stands now, Thor wins easily. But maybe some time in the future(maybe 20 years or so... ) we'll find out that the Entity is at a Beyonder level of power. Of course, there's still the question of how much of the power Sinestro is actually able to wield, one could say that no matter how powerful the Entity is, Sinestro is only able to effectively wield a tiny fraction of its might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest God-Speed_88 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Well yeah, that's the way these things work. You take what powers and feats a character has shown, so naturally if they show more powerful feats then they are judged to be more powerful. But it would have to show some pretty ridiculous feats to catch up to Odin-Force Thor's ridiculous feats. So as it stands now, Thor wins easily. But maybe some time in the future(maybe 20 years or so... ) we'll find out that the Entity is at a Beyonder level of power. Of course, there's still the question of how much of the power Sinestro is actually able to wield, one could say that no matter how powerful the Entity is, Sinestro is only able to effectively wield a tiny fraction of its might. Only time can tell my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega11 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Only time can tell my friend. Exactly, but since we can't postulate what may or may not happen in the future, we can only go by what has already transpired. And from what we've seen, the Entity and/or White Lantern Sinestro is/are no match for Odin-Force Thor. Heck, it may turn out that Aunt May is actually a Celestial being in disguise, and has been for her whole history. But just because that may happen in the future we can't go around right now saying that she would trash Thanos if they fought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Exactly, but since we can't postulate what may or may not happen in the future, we can only go by what has already transpired. And from what we've seen, the Entity and/or White Lantern Sinestro is/are no match for Odin-Force Thor. Heck, it may turn out that Aunt May is actually a Celestial being in disguise, and has been for her whole history. But just because that may happen in the future we can't go around right now saying that she would trash Thanos if they fought.LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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