Match 5754 Doomsday vs. Freeza

[Guest callisto]

This was before the World Martial Art Tournament after Cell was destroyed. Babidi was looking for people he can turn to his crew. while scaning the entire universe, he sensed a powerful and evil heart on the planet Earth. He searched until he found Doomsday after he "died" fighting Superman.

Babidi-"Hmmmm. This thing looks perfect. Once I make him even more powerful under my spell, he might be able to force the strongest being on earth to reveal his true power. All I need now is to test just how strong he is."

Babidi used his dark magic to control the simple creature's mind. he was already 30% stronger then when he fought Superman and died. Now, under the influence of Babidi, his power is 10 times greater then that. Now as Majin Doomsday, he serves with undying loyalty to Babidi.

Babidi-"Now my slave, you will be put to the test. Don't fail me."

Babidi used his dark magic to bring to life Freeza and the Ginyu force.

Freeza-"What happened? How did I get here?"

Babidi-"Now slave, kill them all. Start from the weakest up!

The Ginyu force does not include Ginyu. Freeza is at his strongest. And like I have it in the story, Doomsday is 10 stronger then after he get's 30% stronger.

Who wins?

[DSkillz]

Are you kidding me? Doomsday was already a good deal stronger than Frieza in any form. With the upgrades given here, Frieza gets slaughtered.

 

Jeice, Burter, Recoome, and Guldo are non-factors in this fight.

[Guest tomisntblue]

The only chance Frieza and Co had would have been Ginyu... but then it would be a stomp in the other direction... Anyway, Doomsdays wins.

[Indolent]

Body Change ftw.

 

Because Doomsday would not have a clue what to do with Ginyu's body and Ginyu can always learn to fly again and use Ki attacks and as he is effectively immortal and cannot die, unlike Doomsday in Ginyus body isn't, he would easily destroy his former body. Then he goes on to kill Frieza and takes his place.

[Indolent]

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[Guest tomisntblue]

Body Change ftw.

 

Because Doomsday would not have a clue what to do with Ginyu's body and Ginyu can always learn to fly again and use Ki attacks and as he is effectively immortal and cannot die, unlike Doomsday in Ginyus body isn't, he would easily destroy his former body. Then he goes on to kill Frieza and takes his place.

 

Set-up says no Captian Ginyu

[Indolent]

Set-up says no Captian Ginyu

Well, Carp.

 

Doomsday doesn't know how to fly so... they could just planet bust and be done with it.

[575david]

Well, Carp.

 

Doomsday doesn't know how to fly so... they could just planet bust and be done with it.

Well with that scenario I suppose there's the problem that none of the Ginyu force can breathe in space. But i doubt Frieza cares.

[Indolent]

Well with that scenario I suppose there's the problem that none of the Ginyu force can breathe in space. But i doubt Frieza cares.

Yeah, heh.

[Guest Dreadlock]

Well, Carp.

 

Doomsday doesn't know how to fly so... they could just planet bust and be done with it.

 

He doesn't "fly" but when he fought Superman, he learned to jump incredibly long distances... like MILES upon MILES upon MILES at a time without landing.

 

Doomsday wins this.

[Guest sirmethos]

even if Freeza planet-busts the dbz team doesn't have anything that can actually damage Doomsday.

 

on the other hand, i doubt Doomsday will be able to catch the dbz'ers(at least freeza) so he won't be able to rip them/him apart either.

 

 

Doomsday doesn't die from age, Freeza does.

 

 

winner... eventually: Doomsday

[Indolent]

He doesn't "fly" but when he fought Superman, he learned to jump incredibly long distances... like MILES upon MILES upon MILES at a time without landing.

 

Doomsday wins this.

Yeah, that's going to help him get to the [/b]maneuvering[/b] flying Villains... And he'll just jump right past them without hitting anything.

 

And Doomsday's never been hit by Ki attacks, before, Sirmethos... if he dies, this equates him to being incapacitated, albeit temporarily, and thus a win for the DBZ team.

[Guest King Cobra48]

Yeah, that's going to help him get to the [/b]maneuvering[/b] flying Villains... And he'll just jump right past them without hitting anything.

 

And Doomsday's never been hit by Ki attacks, before, Sirmethos... if he dies, this equates him to being incapacitated, albeit temporarily, and thus a win for the DBZ team.

I remember that Babidi gave Spopovitch the ability to fly. So everyone that Babidi influences learns to fly. I'm not sure about Ki attacks, but he won't be at a disadvantage at flying. Doesn't Doomsday have the ability to survive in space?

[Guest matrix is loading]

I remember that Babidi gave Spopovitch the ability to fly. So everyone that Babidi influences learns to fly. I'm not sure about Ki attacks, but he won't be at a disadvantage at flying. Doesn't Doomsday have the ability to survive in space?

this match is freeza he can blow the planet to hell from space bye bye doomsday he can toy around with doomsday by makeing rock float around and smash into him to see how fast he is this match is dumb

[Guest sirmethos]

Yeah, that's going to help him get to the [/b]maneuvering[/b] flying Villains... And he'll just jump right past them without hitting anything.

 

And Doomsday's never been hit by Ki attacks, before, Sirmethos... if he dies, this equates him to being incapacitated, albeit temporarily, and thus a win for the DBZ team.

 

this is Doomsday, 10 times more powerful than when he killed Superman, he can tank anything the DBZ crew throws at him.

[Indolent]

this is Doomsday, 10 times more powerful than when he killed Superman, he can tank anything the DBZ crew throws at him.

You know, Frieza uses a version of Krillin's Destructo disk that is homing? The technique that actually hurts stronger enemies, severely? The attack that cannot be blocked or deflected?

 

This will kill Doomsday, as he actually has never tanked KI Attacks before, and put him out of the fight.

 

Not to mention Frieza's strong psychokinetic powers, with which he can hold Doomsday in place... perfect for firing off a barrage of the Homing Destructo Disk at the immobilized Doomsday.

 

He too can utilize this in conjunction with his Imprisonment Ball technique, further immobilizing him.

 

Or he can just place his energy inside Doomsday and explode him from the outside out.

 

Even his Grand Earth Cutting Row is said to be able to cut anything, as stated by Frieza, it will do some damage.

 

Even his Death Beam has piercing properties.

[Guest matrix is loading]

You know, Frieza uses a version of Krillin's Destructo disk that is homing? The technique that actually hurts stronger enemies, severely? The attack that cannot be blocked or deflected?

 

This will kill Doomsday, as he actually has never tanked KI Attacks before, and put him out of the fight.

 

Not to mention Frieza's strong psychokinetic powers, with which he can hold Doomsday in place... perfect for firing off a barrage of the Homing Destructo Disk at the immobilized Doomsday.

 

He too can utilize this in conjunction with his Imprisonment Ball technique, further immobilizing him.

 

Or he can just place his energy inside Doomsday and explode him from the outside out.

 

Even his Grand Earth Cutting Row is said to be able to cut anything, as stated by Frieza, it will do some damage.

 

Even his Death Beam has piercing properties.

omg i forgot about that yea anyway supes villens get own by dbz vills any day

[Guest King Cobra48]

You know, Frieza uses a version of Krillin's Destructo disk that is homing? The technique that actually hurts stronger enemies, severely? The attack that cannot be blocked or deflected?

 

This will kill Doomsday, as he actually has never tanked KI Attacks before, and put him out of the fight.

 

Not to mention Frieza's strong psychokinetic powers, with which he can hold Doomsday in place... perfect for firing off a barrage of the Homing Destructo Disk at the immobilized Doomsday.

 

He too can utilize this in conjunction with his Imprisonment Ball technique, further immobilizing him.

 

Or he can just place his energy inside Doomsday and explode him from the outside out.

 

Even his Grand Earth Cutting Row is said to be able to cut anything, as stated by Frieza, it will do some damage.

 

Even his Death Beam has piercing properties.

If Frieza's psychokinetic powers were that strong, he would've use them on Goku at SS1. But no, he either was too weakened or not strong enough in the first place to even bother using it on Goku.

 

If Doomsday is fast enough(which he must be with 10 the power he had after killing Superman) he can do the same thing that Goku did and make it so that the Homing Destructo Disk slices Freeza in half.

 

And I think that Doomsday is about as durable as Goku therefore the energy that Freeza places into Doomsday won't affect him.

[Guest tomisntblue]

If Doomsday is fast enough(which he must be with 10 the power he had after killing Superman) he can do the same thing that Goku did and make it so that the Homing Destructo Disk slices Freeza in half.

 

The only flaw in this argument is, Doomsday's probably not smart enough to think of that.

[Indolent]

The only flaw in this argument is, Doomsday's probably not smart enough to think of that.

Goku didn't try to have the disk kill Frieza. In fact, he tried to warn Frieza about it and he ignored Goku. And you're right, Doomsday isn't that smart. He rather tanks stuff. And this will kill him.

 

Also, Frieza was said to have thrown landmasses at Goku with his telekinesis. And explode mountains.

 

I think he is strong enough.

[Guest sirmethos]

You know, Frieza uses a version of Krillin's Destructo disk that is homing? The technique that actually hurts stronger enemies, severely? The attack that cannot be blocked or deflected?

 

This will kill Doomsday, as he actually has never tanked KI Attacks before, and put him out of the fight.

 

Not to mention Frieza's strong psychokinetic powers, with which he can hold Doomsday in place... perfect for firing off a barrage of the Homing Destructo Disk at the immobilized Doomsday.

 

He too can utilize this in conjunction with his Imprisonment Ball technique, further immobilizing him.

 

Or he can just place his energy inside Doomsday and explode him from the outside out.

 

Even his Grand Earth Cutting Row is said to be able to cut anything, as stated by Frieza, it will do some damage.

 

Even his Death Beam has piercing properties.

 

 

actually, the Destructo disk can be blocked/deflected.

 

"Perfect Cell used the Destructo Disk against Super Saiyan 2 Gohan as one of his last-ditch attacks to defeat him, only for Gohan to catch them mid-air and use his aura to extinguish them. "

 

"In the anime, Krillin uses it once on Perfect Cell, with the disk shattering on Cell's neck, being too tough for even Krillin's ki disk's "edge" to cut."

 

 

Frieza's psychokinesis isn't strong enough to hold Doomsday at his current power, he is "10 times stronger than when he killed Superman".

 

 

Goku didn't try to have the disk kill Frieza. In fact, he tried to warn Frieza about it and he ignored Goku. And you're right, Doomsday isn't that smart. He rather tanks stuff. And this will kill him.

 

Also, Frieza was said to have thrown landmasses at Goku with his telekinesis. And explode mountains.

 

I think he is strong enough.

 

 

i just read through the manga where Frieza appears. the largest thing he "throws at Goku" are large boulders, not mountains or landmasses.

 

 

 

 

anything Frieza does that damages Doomsday, but doesn't kill him right away, is as good as useless

 

" Adaptive Resistances: Doomsday can also develop/evolve resistances to whatever injures or harms him, which was demonstrated in the Superman/Doomsday: Hunter/Prey series. His shield is among the strongest in the universe. Superman used a sound gun to paralyze Doomsday, but Doomsday's auditory canals simply closed up making him impervious to Superman's weapon. Waverider paralyzed Doomsday once with chronal energy, but the second attempt backlashed on Waverider. In essence, Doomsday can become as invulnerable as he needs to be. Doomsday however has proven incapable of resistance to physical and forceful damage.

 

* Adaptive Countermeasures: Doomsday can also develop weapons/evolutions to counter an opponent such as the case when he cancelled out a being of pure energy (i.e. Radiant) by generating an aura of energy and slamming into him, extending his claws to strike while Superman was in flight and reel him in while slowly poisoning him in the aforementioned Superman/Doomsday: Hunter/Prey or breathe flames against the Martian Manhunter in Superman #175. "

 

 

 

 

also: "Evolutionary Regenerative Healing Factor: Doomsday was created and evolved through cloning an infant and having it killed over and over again by one of the most dangerous species of the universe and in one of the harshest habitats in existence, prehistoric Krypton. As such, he returns to life every time he dies and becomes resistant or immune to what killed him before. An example of this was how Doomsday was immune to the Radiant's energy after being killed by the Radiant the first time they fought. Also, Doomsday was shown to be extremely resilient to energy based attacks when facing Darkseid, even going so far as to brutally attack the Lord of Apokolips who had unleashed the force of his omega beams on Doomsday at point blank range. The amount of damage dealt to Doomsday determines the length of time it would take to fully recover. If Doomsday was barely killed with minimal damage, his recovery could be as little as a few months; if he was extensively damaged (like when Imperiex reduced him to a skeleton), it could take even thousands of years without assistance.Doomsday also has a highly accelerated healing factor that allows him to heal and regenerate from most damage almost instantly. "

 

 

 

 

Frieza's deathbeam, and other similar attacks, are pretty much useless against Doomsday: "Superhuman Durability: His other abilities include extreme resistance to heat, cold, and injury allowing him to survive on the most inhospitable worlds as well as survive in the vacuum of space. Doomsday's resistance to injury is increased further due to his lack of internal organs."

 

 

 

bottom line:

Frieza: doesn't have anything attack that can do more than annoy Doomsday and he doesn't have the power to simply destroy him.

 

Doomsday: is so much faster than Frieza that he can beat him with a good *fake word*

 

 

Winner: Doomsday rapes the Frieza squad before they even know what hit 'em.

[Indolent]

actually, the Destructo disk can be blocked/deflected.

 

"Perfect Cell used the Destructo Disk against Super Saiyan 2 Gohan as one of his last-ditch attacks to defeat him, only for Gohan to catch them mid-air and use his aura to extinguish them. "

 

"In the anime, Krillin uses it once on Perfect Cell, with the disk shattering on Cell's neck, being too tough for even Krillin's ki disk's "edge" to cut."

 

 

Frieza's psychokinesis isn't strong enough to hold Doomsday at his current power, he is "10 times stronger than when he killed Superman".

 

 

 

 

 

i just read through the manga where Frieza appears. the largest thing he "throws at Goku" are large boulders, not mountains or landmasses.

 

 

 

 

anything Frieza does that damages Doomsday, but doesn't kill him right away, is as good as useless

 

" Adaptive Resistances: Doomsday can also develop/evolve resistances to whatever injures or harms him, which was demonstrated in the Superman/Doomsday: Hunter/Prey series. His shield is among the strongest in the universe. Superman used a sound gun to paralyze Doomsday, but Doomsday's auditory canals simply closed up making him impervious to Superman's weapon. Waverider paralyzed Doomsday once with chronal energy, but the second attempt backlashed on Waverider. In essence, Doomsday can become as invulnerable as he needs to be. Doomsday however has proven incapable of resistance to physical and forceful damage.

 

* Adaptive Countermeasures: Doomsday can also develop weapons/evolutions to counter an opponent such as the case when he cancelled out a being of pure energy (i.e. Radiant) by generating an aura of energy and slamming into him, extending his claws to strike while Superman was in flight and reel him in while slowly poisoning him in the aforementioned Superman/Doomsday: Hunter/Prey or breathe flames against the Martian Manhunter in Superman #175. "

 

 

 

 

also: "Evolutionary Regenerative Healing Factor: Doomsday was created and evolved through cloning an infant and having it killed over and over again by one of the most dangerous species of the universe and in one of the harshest habitats in existence, prehistoric Krypton. As such, he returns to life every time he dies and becomes resistant or immune to what killed him before. An example of this was how Doomsday was immune to the Radiant's energy after being killed by the Radiant the first time they fought. Also, Doomsday was shown to be extremely resilient to energy based attacks when facing Darkseid, even going so far as to brutally attack the Lord of Apokolips who had unleashed the force of his omega beams on Doomsday at point blank range. The amount of damage dealt to Doomsday determines the length of time it would take to fully recover. If Doomsday was barely killed with minimal damage, his recovery could be as little as a few months; if he was extensively damaged (like when Imperiex reduced him to a skeleton), it could take even thousands of years without assistance.Doomsday also has a highly accelerated healing factor that allows him to heal and regenerate from most damage almost instantly. "

 

 

 

 

Frieza's deathbeam, and other similar attacks, are pretty much useless against Doomsday: "Superhuman Durability: His other abilities include extreme resistance to heat, cold, and injury allowing him to survive on the most inhospitable worlds as well as survive in the vacuum of space. Doomsday's resistance to injury is increased further due to his lack of internal organs."

 

 

 

bottom line:

Frieza: doesn't have anything attack that can do more than annoy Doomsday and he doesn't have the power to simply destroy him.

 

Doomsday: is so much faster than Frieza that he can beat him with a good *fake word*

 

 

Winner: Doomsday rapes the Frieza squad before they even know what hit 'em.

Actually, he blocked it with his aura, not with his bare hands or whatnot as that's usually what they use to block these types of attacks. His stronger Ki defeated the attack.

 

That was the Anime, doesn't count so much for the manga, now does it?

 

These attacks aren't only energy based, they too can have explosive effects, cutting effects, etc, etc.

 

Yeah, you don't exactly know that and the least it can do its slow him down.

 

BTW, he didn't throw a mountain, he exploded a mountain.

 

Actually, its the Doomsday from when he fought Superman and killed him. This is not the Predator/Prey Doomsday, its the regular one that has to die in order to become immune to attacks. There are versions of Doomsday.

 

I still see Frieza's Destructo attacks hurting/killing Doomsday because for one: Doomsday's never been attacked with these kinds of attacks before. And he isn't smart enough to block em. Then there's the attack where Frieza can place his energy within Doomsday and explode him from the outside. I assume the larger the amount of energy, the more powerful it is and he can incapicitate him with this.

 

I also don't see Doomsday utilizing his speed and flight as much.

[Guest sirmethos]

Actually, he blocked it with his aura, not with his bare hands or whatnot as that's usually what they use to block these types of attacks. His stronger Ki defeated the attack.

 

"Doomsday can also develop weapons/evolutions to counter an opponent such as the case when he cancelled out a being of pure energy (i.e. Radiant) by generating an aura of energy and slamming into him,"

 

 

 

Actually, its the Doomsday from when he fought Superman and killed him. This is not the Predator/Prey Doomsday, its the regular one that has to die in order to become immune to attacks. There are versions of Doomsday.

 

 

i'm well aware that there are different versions of Doomsday, but the setup says "He searched until he found Doomsday after he "died" fighting Superman."

 

after he 'died' = hunter/prey

 

 

"Doomsday battled Superman in a titanic struggle, leading the hero to conclude that the creature would only continue to attack relentlessly and endlessly, with no urge for surrender. In an act of self-sacrifice, Superman refused to give up despite taking serious wounds and running low on stamina. The fight raged to the bitter end, where the two combatants each struck a simultaneous, fatal blow, leaving both of them lifeless in front of the Daily Planet building in Metropolis.

 

In the aftermath of Superman's apparent death, no fewer than four super-beings appeared in his wake, two of them declaring themselves to be the "real" Superman. One of these four, a half-man/half-machine who greatly resembled Superman (and who would later become a dangerous villain called simply "The Cyborg"), took custody of Doomsday's apparently lifeless body. After strapping the creature to an asteroid with an electronic device attached (a device later revealed, in the Hunter/Prey books, to be a backup of the cyborg's essence), the Cyborg flung Doomsday into deep space, on a trajectory supposedly certain to never intersect any other planet."

 

 

so, since it's established in the setup that this is the hunter/prey version of Doomsday(only 10 times more powerful), my previous points still stand.

 

 

 

"i just read through the manga where Frieza appears. the largest thing he "throws at Goku" are large boulders, not mountains or landmasses."

 

BTW, he didn't throw a mountain, he exploded a mountain.

 

Also, Frieza was said to have thrown landmasses at Goku with his telekinesis. And explode mountains.

 

I think he is strong enough.

 

either you're ignoring part of my posts, or you're contradicting yourself.

 

 

I still see Frieza's Destructo attacks hurting/killing Doomsday because for one: Doomsday's never been attacked with these kinds of attacks before. And he isn't smart enough to block em. Then there's the attack where Frieza can place his energy within Doomsday and explode him from the outside. I assume the larger the amount of energy, the more powerful it is and he can incapicitate him with this.

 

Frieza doesn't have any attacks, nor does he have the Power, to destroy Doomsday in one move, and since this is the Hunter/Prey version, that's what he would need to win this fight.

 

we're talking about a guy that tanked Darkseids Omega Beams at close range, and took out hundreds of Green Lanterns.

 

he also defeated the entire JLA with one hand literally tied behind his back.

 

there's nothing Frieza can do, that can top that, unless you wanna argue that Frieza is more powerful than a GL of course...

 

 

I also don't see Doomsday utilizing his speed and flight as much.

 

are we talking about the same guy here?

 

Doomsday used his speed to take out most of the Justice League in seconds, he's definitely both able and willing to utilize his epeed.

 

 

and with Doomsdays speed being far superior to Frieza's, we're back at a speed blitz scenario.

[Indolent]

BTW, he didn't throw a mountain, he exploded a mountain.

 

 

 

either you're ignoring part of my posts, or you're contradicting yourself.

Very well then, I concede except for this one.

 

You're obvious ignoring the following part after the bolded one as that was what I said about exploding mountains. I never said he threw mountains, only landmasses as in chunks of land rather than chunks of mountains. And I was following the wiki for the landmass part as well as the explosion of the mountain as I wasn't going to waste my time reading through the manga. That is where I got this.