Guest callisto Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 "Our guests are restless Q," Yuuko said to the omnipotent being, staring at a chessboard her white pieces have not moved. "I have to say, this bizarre of you to simply take away beings from other dimensions and place them on a giant chessboard.""I'm simply testing their skill." Q replied casually. "Some will learn and others potentially not but either way, thought it'd make good exercise for them.""Even the Togruta?""Well yes."Q had simply transported various other beings on a giant chessboard, not far away from the two of them. The chessboard was what was once Q's "courtroom." Of course to protect themselves from hostile opponents, the competitors are sealed within an invisible dome that they cannot escape from until the match is over. The choice of fighters however, were confused as to what happened. Some even tried to free themselves from the dome but with no such luck. "Where are we?!" A raven haired man wearing a black leather jacket with no sleeves asked, in a demanding tone."What happened?" A blue haired girl asked, in a confused yet timid tone. "Calm down everyone." Q's disembodied voice said. "I'll explain everything."Eventually Q told them all what they were here for, some agreed eagerly for a good fight, others were relunctantly but stayed. Fighting against their will.As for Q and Yuuko, they sit in each chair of a large podium, chessboard on the table each piece resembling the beings taken to fight each other. "Let us begin shall we!" Q rubbed his hands together eagerly, like a child opening his presents on Christmas. "Alright." Yuuko relunctantly agreed, sighed. "Let's get this over with."A few pawns moved, the real pawns themselves moving to their position following Yuuko and Q's commands. "Hinata, move to F3." Yuuko's echoed voice told the kunochi ninja taking the role of a pawn.She timidly walked over to her position. "Kurgan, move to D4." Q's equally echoed voice commanded the immortal taking the role of a knight.The Kurgan holding a stern face moved very much a knight piece in a chessboard, moving by the letter L. Close to Hinata. She felt a bit intimidated by him, something about him making her feel uneasy. The Kurgan payed no attention though."Hinata/Kurgan, kill Kurgan/Hinata." Yuuko and Q said almost simultaneously. "Clear the board!"They obitiently moved away minus The Kurgan and Hinata. The Kurgan however, feels confident in a sadistic way, attempting to indimidate Hinata herself."Why don't you go home little girl?" The Kurgan mockingly said to her, pulling his sword. "Go back and play with your dolls."Hinata gulped but none of the less, toughned up herself. She wasn't going to let her be intimidated by him. She took off her jacket revealing her black ninja garb."Want to play?" Kurgan smirked. "Let's play!"He held his sword in attack position and ran towards her charging. "I said it before and I'll say it again..."Hinata was now prepared, the fight was about to begin."THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!" The Kurgan shouted at the top of his lungs. (Note: Yuuko is xxxHolic, Q is from Star Trek, The Kurgan is from Highlander and Hinata Hyuga is from Naruto. Concerning Hinata, it's left up to whoever reads this and votes whether it'd be Pre-Time Skip Hinata or Post-Time skip Hinata. Both opponents have their abilities and weapons including The Kurgan's broadsword and Hinata's Byakugan.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kainboa Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Hinata wins this easily, the kurgan can't hit her as he only have human speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 In Highlander, the Kurgan was shown to actually bring down a stone windmill structure with just four swings with his broadsword-- this is because that like all Highlander Immortals, the Kurgan channeled his blade as well as himself with the power of the Quickening, which boosts his strength to superhuman levels. The Quickening is the power which keeps the immortals alive for well... eternity, and it also gives them Wolverine like healing factors. The Quickening is the Immortals life force, it is very similar to chi or chakra but on a much, much higher level. And the only way to kill an Immortal is to cut-off their head. And I highly doubt that Hinata knows that according to the set up. She can use gentle-fist style all she wants, the Kurgan will regenerate, and he will keep on coming back and he'll either... 1) Stab her to death. 2) *insensitivity* her as he *insensitivity'd* Connor MacLeod's wife, Heather, and then kill her.. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie-Brat Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 To kainboa: I thought his Quickening and immortality would be an advantage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega11 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Ummm...we get to choose if it's Pre or Post-Time Skip Hinata? Well, I'd say Post-Time Skip Hinata would take it fairly easily. Pre-Time Skip however, would be more difficult, but I think I'd still give it to Hinata. She's still a ninja(naturally faster than normal humans), and with the Byakugan, she can't be taken by surprise by the Kurgan. Add in her Gentle Fist fighting style, and I'd give her the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega11 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 In Highlander, the Kurgan was shown to actually bring down a stone windmill structure with just four swings with his broadsword-- this is because that like all Highlander Immortals, the Kurgan channeled his blade as well as himself with the power of the Quickening, which boosts his strength to superhuman levels. The Quickening is the power which keeps the immortals alive for well... eternity, and it also gives them Wolverine like healing factors. The Quickening is the Immortals life force, it is very similar to chi or chakra but on a much, much higher level. And the only way to kill an Immortal is to cut-off their head. And I highly doubt that Hinata knows that according to the set up. She can use gentle-fist style all she wants, the Kurgan will regenerate, and he will keep on coming back and he'll either... 1) Stab her to death. 2) *insensitivity* her as he *insensitivity'd* Connor MacLeod's wife, Heather, and then kill her.. -Rakai'Thwei The Kurgan might not die, but he can still be incapacitated and lose the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie-Brat Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Ummm...we get to choose if it's Pre or Post-Time Skip Hinata? Yeah. It's your choice if it's Pre or Post-Time skip Hinata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 The Kurgan might not die, but he can still be incapacitated and lose the fight. That's kind of half true. An Immortal can will their Quickening to boost their endurance and stamina, and even though they can be stabbed in the chest or shot up at point blank, if they can will their Quickening to flow through their bodies and will it to enhance their strength, durability and stamina, they can take up to a whole lot more punishment which would kill a human being and remain conscious. This was shown in the first movie, the series, and of course Endgame. So from how I see it, if Hinata uses gentle fists all she wants, and the Kurgan wills his Quickening to heal his wounds and enhance his durability... she'll be hard pressed to handle him. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega11 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 That's kind of half true. An Immortal can will their Quickening to boost their endurance and stamina, and even though they can be stabbed in the chest or shot up at point blank, if they can will their Quickening to flow through their bodies and will it to enhance their strength, durability and stamina, they can take up to a whole lot more punishment which would kill a human being and remain conscious. This was shown in the first movie, the series, and of course Endgame. So from how I see it, if Hinata uses gentle fists all she wants, and the Kurgan wills his Quickening to heal his wounds and enhance his durability... she'll be hard pressed to handle him. -Rakai'Thwei Yeah, but with the Byakugan Hinata could see the transfer of energy goes on, and perhaps anticipate it. Also she might notice the large scar on the Kurgan's neck, and notice that all his other wounds are gone. She might even be able to disrupt the flow of the Quickening through the Kurgan's body with her Gentle Fist. I think Hinata just has more ways to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Yeah, but with the Byakugan Hinata could see the transfer of energy goes on, and perhaps anticipate it. Also she might notice the large scar on the Kurgan's neck, and notice that all his other wounds are gone. She might even be able to disrupt the flow of the Quickening through the Kurgan's body with her Gentle Fist. I think Hinata just has more ways to win. Gentle Fist would work if the Kurgan was a mortal who had normal chi... The Quickening is not even chi/chakra, it's magic. Magic in it's purest and unrefined form from what I know of the Highlander mythos. While the usage of Quickening in combat works like chi, it doesn't mean that it necessarily flows in the same way as chakra or chi. As a martial artist, I understand the principals and usage of chi/chakra, and in some cases of the Highlander mythos-- the Quickening can do some VERY spooky things. Also, the older the Immortal is, the more powerful the Immortal in question is. In the events of Highlander, the Kurgan was over 3,000 years old in the Mini-Gathering of 1985-- and if we account that he has beheaded Juan Ramirez somewhere between 1536 to 1540, and Juan Ramirez was over 2,000 years old during that time... well.. the Kurgan was an unbelievably powerful Immortal in terms of Quickening. From what I have seen, he healed faster and was stronger than most other Immortals in Highlander. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega11 Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Gentle Fist would work if the Kurgan was a mortal who had normal chi... The Quickening is not even chi/chakra, it's magic. Magic in it's purest and unrefined form from what I know of the Highlander mythos. While the usage of Quickening in combat works like chi, it doesn't mean that it necessarily flows in the same way as chakra or chi. As a martial artist, I understand the principals and usage of chi/chakra, and in some cases of the Highlander mythos-- the Quickening can do some VERY spooky things. Also, the older the Immortal is, the more powerful the Immortal in question is. In the events of Highlander, the Kurgan was over 3,000 years old in the Mini-Gathering of 1985-- and if we account that he has beheaded Juan Ramirez somewhere between 1536 to 1540, and Juan Ramirez was over 2,000 years old during that time... well.. the Kurgan was an unbelievably powerful Immortal in terms of Quickening. From what I have seen, he healed faster and was stronger than most other Immortals in Highlander. -Rakai'Thwei Whether it's magic, chi, or chakra, it's still energy flowing through the body, and I'd think Gentle Fist would be able to disrupt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie-Brat Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Gentle Fist would work if the Kurgan was a mortal who had normal chi... The Quickening is not even chi/chakra, it's magic. Magic in it's purest and unrefined form from what I know of the Highlander mythos. While the usage of Quickening in combat works like chi, it doesn't mean that it necessarily flows in the same way as chakra or chi. As a martial artist, I understand the principals and usage of chi/chakra, and in some cases of the Highlander mythos-- the Quickening can do some VERY spooky things. Also, the older the Immortal is, the more powerful the Immortal in question is. In the events of Highlander, the Kurgan was over 3,000 years old in the Mini-Gathering of 1985-- and if we account that he has beheaded Juan Ramirez somewhere between 1536 to 1540, and Juan Ramirez was over 2,000 years old during that time... well.. the Kurgan was an unbelievably powerful Immortal in terms of Quickening. From what I have seen, he healed faster and was stronger than most other Immortals in Highlander. -Rakai'Thwei He's right you know. According to the novelization, The Kurgan has been an immortal since around 900 B.C., he's the oldest and most powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Gentle Fist would work if the Kurgan was a mortal who had normal chi... The Quickening is not even chi/chakra, it's magic. Magic in it's purest and unrefined form from what I know of the Highlander mythos. While the usage of Quickening in combat works like chi, it doesn't mean that it necessarily flows in the same way as chakra or chi. As a martial artist, I understand the principals and usage of chi/chakra, and in some cases of the Highlander mythos-- the Quickening can do some VERY spooky things. Also, the older the Immortal is, the more powerful the Immortal in question is. In the events of Highlander, the Kurgan was over 3,000 years old in the Mini-Gathering of 1985-- and if we account that he has beheaded Juan Ramirez somewhere between 1536 to 1540, and Juan Ramirez was over 2,000 years old during that time... well.. the Kurgan was an unbelievably powerful Immortal in terms of Quickening. From what I have seen, he healed faster and was stronger than most other Immortals in Highlander. -Rakai'ThweiGentle Fist also causes severe internal damage besides striking the chakra systems, even with the most gentle tap. I really doubt the Kurgan can move if Hinata focuses on his spinal column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 He's right you know. According to the novelization, The Kurgan has been an immortal since around 900 B.C., he's the oldest and most powerful.No, he's not the oldest. Methos is the oldest. 45th century BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie-Brat Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 No, he's not the oldest. Methos is the oldest. 45th century BC. Yeah but he's killed alot of immortals. Plus he has more experience in fighting, I think he knows who can play dirty or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Yeah but he's killed alot of immortals. Plus he has more experience in fighting, I think he knows who can play dirty or not.No, he doesn't have "more experience" in fighting. Methos used to go around killing tens of thousands of people... and he was damned good at it. He's also defeated several people who is used to fighting all the time. Silas is one of them. Methos doesn't fight much... but that doesn't mean he isn't good and he still can defeat them. Besides, as per my statement of Hinata potentially focusing on Kurgan's spinal column, he's done for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 No, he's not the oldest. Methos is the oldest. 45th century BC. Methos is the oldest as far as the Highlander series continuity is concerned. Movie continuity, Methos doesn't exist. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie-Brat Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Even so, The Kurgan did build himself up to a threat. He stabbed Connor the first time they met, sure he didn't deliver the final blow but it was enough to show him that he doesn't hesistate in killing anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie-Brat Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Besides, as per my statement of Hinata potentially focusing on Kurgan's spinal column, he's done for. How if you don't mind me asking? The thing is, even though she has the Byukagan but The Kurgan's not likely to let her to do that even if he didn't know what she was up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 How if you don't mind me asking? The thing is, even though she has the Byukagan but The Kurgan's not likely to let her to do that even if he didn't know what she was up to.She's much, much faster than him easily and not to mention, she has basic academy jutsus that will allow her to evade attacks and get around him rather quickly easily and she is adept at them considering her chakra control and her training in the use of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Methos is the oldest as far as the Highlander series continuity is concerned. Movie continuity, Methos doesn't exist. -Rakai'ThweiHe was in Highlander: Endgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie-Brat Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 She's much, much faster than him easily and not to mention, she has basic academy jutsus that will allow her to evade attacks and get around him rather quickly easily and she is adept at them considering her chakra control and her training in the use of them. True about the following. She's fast but The Kurgan can resist damage all he can. And concerning Highlander: Endgame, well, not sure about that to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 True about the following. She's fast but The Kurgan can resist damage all he can. And concerning Highlander: Endgame, well, not sure about that to be honest.He can heal from all damage, except from being beheaded, of course, but he can't resist extensive damage to his spinal column that would in effect cripple/disable/paralyze him until he healed. Immortals also can't regenerate lost limbs. Unless they can reconnect said limbs and whatnot. This would mean Hinata can lop off hims limbs and effectively win in this way. -.- I've seen the movie... but if you don't believe me, here: http://highlander.wikia.com/wiki/Highlander:_Endgame Look in Friends under the picture of the movie. You'll see Methos's name and if that isn't enough, read the synopsis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie-Brat Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Yeah but I'm not counting the sequels. Sorry dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Jaegar, as a Highlander fan, I can tell you that there are different Highlander continuities according to series writer, David Abramowitz. There is the movie continuity, and then there is the series continuity. In the movie continuity, it's just the first and third film-- the Gathering ended as of 1985. Connor MacLeod became the last living Immortal, Duncan didn't exist, neither did Richie Ryan, Methos, Amanda, or the other Immortals from the series. The game was re-started in 1995 when Kane and the Mongolian Immortals broke out from Mount Niri's cave and the Gathering was started up again. Connor kills Kane and wins the Prize. In the series continuity, the events of the first movie happened but the ending was retconned and the rest of the series takes off from there. Endgame is considered to be part of the series continuity since it's set in the series universe. Yes, it's a movie but it's set in the series. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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