Iron man Extremis vs Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)

[Indolent]

I can read sarcasm, thanks.

 

But yeah, I meant that they might know it on a more detailed level than a simple wiki.

[Guest force_echo]

I can read sarcasm, thanks.

 

But yeah, I meant that they might know it on a more detailed level than a simple wiki.

Probably not. And the wiki is anything from "simple", look up matter wave on a wiki. Matter is not made up of waves, the kinetic energy of certain subatomic particles manifest themselves in wave properties, but also particle properties, so even THAT is a half-truth, hence the name particle-wave duality theory. But please, if Skirmisher and ruinus are experts on Quantum mechanics and have already gotten their Phd from Harvard maybe they can enlighten me.

[Indolent]

You always have to blow things out of proportions, don't you?

 

Anyways, this is all purely based on assumptions and I may be wrong, so, let's leave it at that.

[Skirmisher]

Probably not. And the wiki is anything from "simple", look up matter wave on a wiki. Matter is not made up of waves, the kinetic energy of certain subatomic particles manifest themselves in wave properties, but also particle properties, so even THAT is a half-truth, hence the name particle-wave duality theory. But please, if Skirmisher and ruinus are experts on Quantum mechanics and have already gotten their Phd from Harvard maybe they can enlighten me.

Here

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc

 

Also, looking up the Quantum Wave Theory one begins to believe that there's more to reality than that... Even Einstein saw the world as made up of waves and energy.

 

"We may therefore regard matter as being constituted by the regions of space in which the field is extremely intense...There is no place in this new kind of physics for the field and matter, for the field is the only reality."

 

http://www.starstuffs.com/physcon2/science.html

 

"Physicists found that the most basic atomic particles in the cosmos comprise the very fabric of the material universe. An electron, for example, can be shown to be both a wave and a particle depending on the observer's perspective."

 

Then there's String and M-Theory...

 

 

Where all matter and even forces in the universe are made up of vibrating strings.

[Guest force_echo]

Here

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc

 

Also, looking up the Quantum Wave Theory one begins to believe that there's more to reality than that... Even Einstein saw the world as made up of waves and energy.

 

"We may therefore regard matter as being constituted by the regions of space in which the field is extremely intense...There is no place in this new kind of physics for the field and matter, for the field is the only reality."

 

http://www.starstuffs.com/physcon2/science.html

 

"Physicists found that the most basic atomic particles in the cosmos comprise the very fabric of the material universe. An electron, for example, can be shown to be both a wave and a particle depending on the observer's perspective."

 

Then there's String and M-Theory...

 

 

Where all matter and even forces in the universe are made up of vibrating strings.

Both a wave and a particle based on the observer's perspective, yeah that's what I said, it dosen't mean all matter's made up of waves. Electrons moving through a wire do not have a frequency.

[Indolent]

So... was my assumption right or wrong...? o.0

[Skirmisher]

So... was my assumption right or wrong...? o.0

No, it's just Echo being obstinate in the face of concepts he doesn't understand.

[Indolent]

I see.

[Guest force_echo]

No, it's just Echo being obstinate in the face of concepts he doesn't understand.

No, it's you attempting to sound smart wheb you have no idea what you're posting about. Like that shit with the string theory? That's dealing with particles of force, strong nuclear, weak nuclear, EM, and gravity. That doesn't show that matter has a frequency. It's you freaking always trying to curve information so that you look correct and intelligent, when really, you are neither. It's you who needs to get your head out of your ass and realize you're not talking to a three year old but someone who knows that you are full of bullshit. This happened when you argued SW blasters, this happened when you argued IP's armor, hell it happens on a regular basis. So show me conclusive evidence that electricity and matter have a frequency or shut the hell up and stop insulting my intelligence by your sanctimonious bullshit.

[Skirmisher]

No, it's you attempting to sound smart wheb you have no idea what you're posting about. Like that shit with the string theory? That's dealing with particles of force, strong nuclear, weak nuclear, EM, and gravity. That doesn't show that matter has a frequency. It's you freaking always trying to curve information so that you look correct and intelligent, when really, you are neither. It's you who needs to get your head out of your ass and realize you're not talking to a three year old but someone who knows that you are full of bullshit. This happened when you argued SW blasters, this happened when you argued IP's armor, hell it happens on a regular basis. So show me conclusive evidence that electricity and matter have a frequency or shut the hell up and stop insulting my intelligence by your sanctimonious bullshit.

Urr, durr okey doky there mister Echo, I dun know that wheb I talkyed about that stuff it hurt your brain an made you get all defenstrative.

 

I must not noe of any of dat stuffes cause the conert is too hurd to under stand.

 

Still thuw, aint yu the Pot callin the Kettle black? Trying desperately to sound smart wen yo'r as dumb as a kettle.

[Indolent]

Echo, just ignore Skirmisher...

[C.T.]

Nah, don't do that.

[Indolent]

Yeah, don't.

[Guest force_echo]

Urr, durr okey doky there mister Echo, I dun know that wheb I talkyed about that stuff it hurt your brain an made you get all defenstrative.

 

I must not noe of any of dat stuffes cause the conert is too hurd to under stand.

 

Still thuw, aint yu the Pot callin the Kettle black? Trying desperately to sound smart wen yo'r as dumb as a kettle.

My point exactly.

[Skirmisher]

My point exactly.

[Guest Blue Beetle (Jamie Reyes)]

*looks at his username*

 

Guess who I'm going for.

[Guest Steel]

This is damn stupid. Blue Beetle has never shown that kind of adaptability in any comic, EVER. Doomsday is far more adaptable than BB, but even he can't fight people out of his league like Galactus. As Force_echo has pointed out, Iron Man is BB's superior is EVERY SINGLE FIELD by large margin, and personally, I think Tony's mind could provide more adaptability than BB's Scarab, by far. Iron Man is on ANOTHER LEVEL than BB is, and no amount of relatively small-scale adaptability can make up for that.

[Indolent]

Not exactly small scale if the Scarab can provide the user the methods to fend off the likes of The Spectre...

[Guest force_echo]

Not exactly small scale if the Scarab can provide the user the methods to fend off the likes of The Spectre...

Its not powerwise, the entire meaning of adaptation is unique adaptation. Just because BB can apparantly (and this has never even been shown) procure countermeasures for the spectre dosen't mean he'd be able to do the same thing with say Galactus even though they're the same power levels. He can adapt to Spectre because spectre is a completly magical being and the BB can disrupt magic, nothing to do with raw power.

[Indolent]

He can adapt to Tony because Tony is a basically an entirely technologically-based hero.

[Guest force_echo]

He can adapt to Tony because Tony is a basically an entirely technologically-based hero.

And so what? An EMP blast? Tony has enhanced circuits that recover from even SHEILDs most advanced EMP blasts in seconds. Even in Director of SHEILD, where an enemy was given SPECIFIC access to Iron Man's circuitry and created a hyper-advanced EMP solely based on Iron Man's unique circuitry (and this guy was almost as smart as Tony himself) he recovered from it in seconds.

[Indolent]

Do what? He can adapt a way to defeat Tony.

[Guest force_echo]

Do what? He can adapt a way to defeat Tony.

This match should be over before BB does any adapting, honestly, a few punches to the face is all thats needed. Even if BB's energy sheild protects against melee attacks (which is total bullshit) the concussive force alone would kill him.

[Indolent]

Mh, all he needs to do is a few rapid scannings and then he adapts immediately.

 

Honestly, with Beetle's ability of adapting, there's no way Tony wins.

[Guest force_echo]

Mh, all he needs to do is a few rapid scannings and then he adapts immediately.

 

Honestly, with Beetle's ability of adapting, there's no way Tony wins.

Adapts to freaking what?!!?!?! Steel has made a good point, in his comics he never adapts that drastically, the only drastic adapting measure he has is the spectre AND THATS NOT EVEN PROVEN. BB is not that powerful at all, he can't adapt to anything, he's not Doomsday, he's street leve, and Steel brings up a good point, Tony's intelligence could adapt faster and more efficiently than BB's ever could. BB has never adapted to the measures Sirmethos puts it at, not when Ted Kord had it, not when Dan Garret had it, and not when Jamie Reese had it. There's a difference between adapting an attack so it would work better in crowds and adapting an attack that would take down an opponent who could one shot you in every single department of combat, an opponent who's stronger, faster, smarter, more powerful, and just plain better that you. He didn't adapt when he fought Guy Gardner, he didn't adapt when he fought the Posse, THE KIDS A STREET LEVEL CHARACTER. He fights magic gang members, he's not even in Iron Man's LEAGUE. Honestly, there is not a single adaptation feat you can provide me that would indicate that he can even put a fight to Superman.